Thursday, June 12, 2008

Dasavatharam Review : Reject (Updated)

Dasavatharam does not resemble the 10 avatharams that God took to fight the evil man. It more or less resembles Hiranyakashabu, who sought that he be killed neither by man nor beast nor in sunlight nor in the dark -or Ravanan who was arrogant enough to seek that he be killed by no asura, no god, no devas - or Kamsan. Dasavatharam gives a feeling that some idiotic man thought he had it all figured out. That he had covered all the loopholes. There were the hyped-up 10 roles, Asin, Mallika, Aascar Ravichandran, his marketing, huge music launch extravaganza. He probably thought all that would ensure that the movie would be successful. The irony of all ironies that Kamal Haasan would never forget is that very much like the stories of the 10 avatharams, God as usual struck from unexpected sources. In this case it was in the form of Story, Screenplay and Dialog. The 3 aspects of the movie that was personally manned by Kamal Haasan killed the movie. It is hard to pinpoint which of the three is worse. They do get reasonable competition from poor stunts, poor direction, cheap CGI and some unimaginative acting. But the three stand as the top reasons why this is such a bad movie.

When the movie was advertised as the first movie where an actor essayed 10 roles, I wondered - no I hoped that - this gimmick wasn't the movie's only selling point. Why would one mention it so much? Ajith in Citizen did that mistake. An actor playing 10 roles is not why I would go and watch any movie. That's a bad reason to go watch a movie. The story that necessitates the 10 roles and one that binds those characters together in a single cogent screenplay would make the movie worth watching. Thats what I was expecting out of Dasavatharam. The connection, the essence that makes it all look sensible. MMKR was a movie magic because everything, the roles, the dialog and the story flow just made sense. In Dasavatharam nothing makes sense. When the movie started with "first time in the world where an actor is playing 10 roles" - I was taken aback at the cheap gimmick. Who in the world cares? Whats that claim going to fetch? The story does not require that there be 10 characters. Most of them cannot effectively influence the path of the vial. So - their infuence is contrived. In fact most of characters are plain idiotic. Bush does not influence it and Ranagaraja Nambi does not influence anything. I was predicting that Bush would influence the vial by not informing Indian Govt in advance about the impending Tsunami. Because in that context the tsunami was more beneficial than destructive. But the movie was so vague in this aspect that I lost interest.

Humor is probably the biggest casualty in this movie. the dialogs were boring, stupid and my god were they unfunny. Kamal haasan has given 'asattu' jokes new meaning. There were a few good to lame jokes that Balaram Naidu (spanned the spectrum from "Rao'oda Rao" - to - "speak 5 languages in telegu") cracked for the front benchers but pretty much every single dialog was a mess. If this is the best humor that Kamal Haasan can come up with then he should let Crazy Mohan or someone do the dialogs. There is no need to talk about the songs. They were all bad. Every single one of them. Himesh Reshamaiyya or whoever it is could have farted and that would have been better music. Because multiple Kamal Haasans fight each other, CGI is important. And since most of the movie is filled with such stunt sequences one would hope they better be good. They are not. There are strange close-ups, jarring slow-motions, and odd fast-forwards that look weird. The continuity is completely gone. And it is impossible to achieve some sort of acceptable continuity or fluency in the stunts given the constraints Kamal has set for himself. The least he could have done is try and lift a Perumal Kovil Utsavar and test if it can be lifted so lightly and thrown around like a barbie doll. With Kamal Haasan flying around and jumping buildings and cars like the way Rajinikanth used to do in the 80s - means that the stunt department gets zero marks. The Tsunami scene is over hyped. It looks ordinary. So lets not get into that. Among actors - Asin is plain irritating. I am pretty sure most of the viewers would have been happy if the Asin character had been shot dead midway.

The story is rather simple. I don't suppose anyone can spoil it. A biological weapon is on the loose and the scientist who invented it tries to protect it from being used by a terrorist organization. Christian Fletcher, an ex-CIA agent who represents the terrorist organization is the best of the 10 roles. While his accent is stylish and impeccable, he looks funny. I mean the make-up. Its pretty bad. But in this movie you have to take what you get. The problem with Kamal Haasan playing white male characters like Bush and this ex-CIA guy is that they don't look like real people. Remember the movie 'Mask'. In the last scene the villain puts on the Mask and takes a grotesque form. Kamal Haasan has a similar unshapely (and oddly large) face while essaying both these roles. Most times when Fletcher fell down or got beaten up, I wondered if the make-up would come off. Krishnaveni Patti and Balaram Naidu get joint second place. The Japanese guy was superfluous. The Dalit guy is ornamental. That Kalif Ullah character, especially his slow voice, was plain irritating apart from being unneccessary (he does not influence the path of the vial). Since I travelled the Chidamabaram -> Madras route extensively last summer, the route that the characters take was jarring. After a point I couldn't relate whether Avtar's sing's concert (the hospital etc) was in Pondi or Madras. The movie was in too much of a hurry to make it clear. If that is the case then it shouldn't have taken a partial dig at details. Kamal Haasan continues to get tangled in the language boundaries. He did a similar mistake in Hey Ram. He has Japanese girl , Kalif Ulla (who is not a native speaker), and even Bush speaking Thamizh. This actually reduces the movie into a mockery. The caste-based caricatures and the stereotypes that he makes is actually very immature. Several times I thought "che nee ivalavudhaana".

Screenplay is the third leg that breaks. The screenplay just wanders and drags for most part. The first Rangaraja Nambi part was a separate episode in the screenplay. Not exceptionally well connected to the main story in my opinion. After that disconnected bit, the story attempts to flow in a single thread the way MMKR flowed and the way Mumbai Express tried to flow. The problem is that the Nambi episode is very serious and high adrenalin stuff. That sets the tone of the movie. Balaram Naidu and a huge part of the movie is in a comical tone. The inconsistent tone is confusing for the viewer. Kamal Haasan tries to connect them using chaos theory. MMKR did that better. This movie has its moments, but there were quite a few 10 minute segments that just dragged. Dragged on and on and on. It was bloody boring. After a point one began to wonder what the hell was going one. There were so many scenes that were just unnecessarily there. And they had horrible dialogs. He could have edited out 1 hour from this movie and still made it look as good. In summary, Kamal Haasan fell for his own hype. His giant ego blinded him and probably made him believe that the 10-role novelty and his immature arguments about god and science would carry the movie. He ends the movie showing-off the hard work he put into this movie with a self-praise song. That won't help either. If you are throwing out nonsense, your name better be Rajinikanth. Otherwise it won't work. If he spoken to Rajinikanth and asked him what went wrong with Baba, Rajini would have told him that a movie would crack open and fail the moment you start pushing your personal agenda, belief and arguments. They start intruding into every aspect of the movie. Dasavatharam fails because Kamal Haasan bit more than anyone could ever chew. It is an egomaniac's fart. Don't go anywhere near it. It stinks.
Trivia Update:
1. Asin plays 2 roles Kothai & later Andal ( both are names of the 12th azhwar called Andal who is Periya Azhwar's daughter). The real Andal is an Azhwar who is perennialy religious and madly in love with Lord. Govinda. She dreams of marrying god and writes potery to that effect. Here the name of the 'perumal' and Scientist Kamal is 'Govind' and Asin loves both of them.
2. Connections to Vishnu Purana's Dasavatharam Trivia: Boovarahan (Obvious: The Boar - Varaha Avatharam; his issue in the movie is digging the earth and sand), Balarama naidu (obvious), Govind/Krishnaveni-Patti can both be Krishna Avatharam - but lets assign avar Krishnaveni Patti as the Krishna avatharam (since Krishna is also a common name for a woman) and since Govind is Govind Ramaswamy and has a monkey called Hanu - he should be Rama avatharam. Kalif Ullah was the opposite of Vamana Avatharam (Tall vs Short). The Japanese Kamal had a name similar to Nrihasimha Avatharam (Narasomo or something). Since Ranagaraja Nambi drowned can we say there is a loose connection to Matsya (an avatharam where a fish warns the King of impending flood) or can we say he was Koorma avatharam because he lay in the bottom and churned the sea to create a tsunami? The word Fletcher means 'arrows' or the 'maker of arrows'. Though Parasurama wielded an axe, I'll generously call Christian Fletcher a modern Parasurama because he is angry and kills everyone in sight :-). Kalki has no/slender connections to Bush and Avtar Singh unless someone enlightens me (The best I can think of is Singh = singham and so Nrihasimha).
3. In this movie - Ramaswamy Naicker's son Govind loves a girl called Andal - I thought this was a poor joke. Kamal even explained it twice just in case no one got it.
4. Purusha Sooktham can be heard in the background when Krishnaveni Patti throws the vial into Utsavar.
5. Govindaraja Perumal is the name of the moolavar that Kulothunga throws into the see.Scientist Kamal is called Govind.
6. Rangaraja Nambi's first dialog is amusing - he jumps wierdly in the air and says "Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan'. The sub-plot here is that; Nambi assumes that the Chozhan (a childhood friend) is demanding that Nambi should reveal the whereabouts of Ramanuja. Kulothunga II even calls Nambi's attention to the fate of Kurattalvan (who was blinded with a hot iron rod because did not reveal such information when asked). Napolean as the Chozhan speaks Chen-thamizh like Vadivelu - kolai pannifying 'la' and 'zha'. Asin's chen-thamizh is ridiculous.
7. Following 5 & 6 above ; The name of the person who has put the case against Dasavatharam in Supereme court is 'Govinda Ramanuja Dasan'. Irony.
8. Sattrumurai's "Pallandu" verse was briefly recited (using the wrong metre) in the song 'Kallai Mattum Kandaal'.

169 comments:

Krishnan said...

Pretty shocking ! Is it so bad ?
So do you think it will go the way of Aalavandan, Mumbai Express ?

Jillu Madrasi said...

avalavodhanna? Seri -- thanks for the heads up.

anantha said...

En ba ivalo strong opinion? Avalo mosama irruka? Enakku sirippu dhaan varadhu!

Anonymous said...

.. Kamal Haasan fell for his own hype. His giant ego blinded him...

You just hit the nail on the head!

Karthik Sriram said...

@ Hawkeye,

Yes - As you said Kamal Haasan, as the script-writer and the brain(?) behind this movie is completely confused whether to do justice to the 10 role commercial gimmick or to try and put up something resembling a story and screenplay and the confusion pretty much shows in every frame. The defining point in the movie was Avtaar Singh getting cured of his cancer. I remember there used to be a Rajni Kanth parody email forward which used to do that.And as you said, Afghan, Paati, Boovaragan had absolutely no connection to the main plot and boovaragan character was a typical Kamal Haasan caricature - trying to show + is greater than - or |.

@ Krishnan, illu madrasi and Anantha,

Honeslty, you can see the movie once. Just that don't even think this is a Kamal Haasan movie. Think of a recent stinker called Kuruvi and you'll enjoy this movie.




LKS

Ravi Shanker said...

Came across your post on technorati.You took the words right out of my mouth!!
http://ravis.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/dasavatharam/

Anonymous said...

Sphere படதிள்லாேருந்தில்ல் இருந்து காப்பி

இதுக்கு போய் 15 டாலர் கொள்ளை அடிக்கிறான்

ஷிவாஜி better! ஷ்ரெயா கர்வ் காண்பிச்சா!

இப்படிக்கு அன்பன், கந்தசாமி, நம்பியூர்

Zero said...

Completely agree. Word for word, and I'd still have words left unsaid. But, like PKS aNNAththa would say, "oNNiyum parayath thEva illa!" Trolley forward.

maxdavinci said...

avalo kevalama iruka?

Jillu Madrasi said...

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/jun/13dasa.htm

Evanga enna eppudi solraanga?

guna said...

you are 100% right with your review. i watched the movie in seattle yesterday night and for a while i didnt even know what was going on :(. the comparison with baba is perfectly right (but kamal actually does this in all of his films). I thought that KSRs presence would nullify kamal's interference but unfortunately it did not.

it is not as bad as aalavandhan or mumbai express but not as good as thevar magan or mmkr or any other movie it might want to compare against.

wasted effort :(

Karthik Sriram said...

@ Jillu Madrasi


rediff has fabricated a review from rumors on the internet and some fanatic reviews from Orkut Tamil Cinema community. There is no annachi in the movie at all.. And there is not computer chip.. or reviewer night show ku sema poojai saamanoda poitu, mattai ayitaaru pola irukku.... or Rediff was paid by Mr. ASS-kaar to promote...


LKS

Karthik balaji said...

dis is a review of someone who forgot to appreciate things!!! it says d story does not require 10 characters...dats true!! but dis story is made so as to act in 10 characters dats it
moreover...he has done justice to his roles by givin d roles oppurtunities to perform!!! and to say dese roles cud b done by 10 diff ppl..but he wants to do dasavadaaram yaar!! see his hardwork and try to appreciate if possible!!!
i would say d movie is pretty gud to watch!!!not boring and all!!!! see d performance
........KB,CHENNAI

Abhishek said...

Sry KB will take u on here also...the characters were baseless..no necessity at all...so if it was someone else performin them u wudn bother lookin at the screen..jus coz it was hyped so much tht hes doin 10 roles..n coz we know its kamal performin those roles we watch the screen..illati padam utter flop..all hype..not all ripe!

Karthik Sriram said...

@ karthik Balaji,

I don't see the necessity for the Afghan, Paati, Boovaragan characters per se..


LKS

Maha said...

as i always said - kamal should do only acting and dancing not direction/dialogue. and on a related note SPB should do only singing - not music direction or acting and similarly tendulkar should only play cricket (oh! yea he has to be a bowler too) and not manage/captain.
dunno why people start assuming that if they are successful in A then they will be successful in B also.
-m

Anonymous said...

Maha sollittaru da .... appo correcta dhaan irukkum.

BTW, why dont you just stick to keeping your mouth shut?

-Prabhu

victor said...

anyone goes to a hyped movie, expects Speed or Indiana Jones or Jurassic Park out of the screen.
Thats not the only definition for a good movie.
I think this reviewer had some stupid expectations and slightly mad enough to comment on Kamal's ego.

I didn't watch the movie, but it looks like all the characters are related with each other by choas theory (many may not aware).

So, cool down and sometime go for Dasa with a flat expectations, you gonna love it.
Kamal is a great brain, I dont deny he screwed up Alawandan and Mexp, but this time Direction is taken up by KSR.
So, I dont believe this review.

Relook Dude !

Anonymous said...

Check out the review of THE HINDU- A geniune one.

‘Dasavathaaram’: in the manner of an epic
http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/14/stories/2008061454122000.htm

Shivarajan said...

Ayoo ayyo....

Sappa padam.... u wasted $$ man...... u should gone and bought toilet paper from SamsClub instead.

I was planning to watch the dis moveee in DVD, which also i wud avoid now, since its not worth $2 also....

I heard one Kamal fans puked in Theater yesterday and one was about the die after hanging himself from his ceiling at his homw after the show, but was saved as building was 30 years old and the guy was heavy ????.

Also heard the theatre had some degrades like .... introduced termites and bedbugs in pretty much all seats !

and now the real fun.....

One more update.... couple...of folks have approached Sulekha for their ticket refunds for some upcoming shows today and t'mm..... (refer sulekha posts)

Sorry 2 hear that..... may be distributor can arrange "Sivaji" again as a consolation for them....

Anonymous said...

Kuruvi paakkaravan ellam ennamo periya movie critic madiri ippo propaganda uda vendaam. Watch it once without expecting a Hey Ram. Ungalukkellam idhu podhum.

Anonymous said...

Horrible movie. Please dont waste your money and time.

http://dasavatharamsucks.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

The worst character of all the 10 roles donned by the 'ULAGA NAYAGAN' was the Yusufullah !!! What a mockery of himself.
KAMAL !!! Stop involving yourself into the screeplay and concentrate only on acting.

Easwar said...

honest review dud.. i felt the same

gradwolf said...

"If you are throwing out nonsense, your name better be Rajinikanth."

hehehe, cheeky! I am not sure who is being damaged here!

Aravind said...

highlighting negatives doesnt make a review .
@ other comments-- comparing it with sivaji doesnt make any sense at all.
There are good things to appreciate in this movie and
Nobody makes a perfect movie.

And people who made a failure outta good movies like Anbe Sivam will never grow up. go get a life people.

Again, Perceptions differ.

for genuine reviews ..
http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/14/stories/2008061454122000.htm

http://avyukta.blogspot.com/2008/06/blog-post_12.html

Rama Karthikeyan said...

Here is my popularity analysis of Dasavatharam using Google Trends.

http://bale-blog-ia.blogspot.com/2008/06/dasavatharam-sivaji-and-reality-check.html

Anonymous said...

OMG ! What a colossal waste of time. It is my horror experience on Friday the 13th.

Kamal should have thought of a sensible story first and finding a way to tie the 10 characters in a coherent manner. Most of the characters seem unnecessary and the make-up is plain irritating/ungodly in most of them.

artfuldodger said...

Kalaipuli s dhanu suffered 6 years ago for a movie... now its oscar ravichandran.... both case thundu confirmed....

Anonymous said...

who the f is the cameraman and editor? what's with all the zoom in and outs and cuts in the movie?

I guess everyone involved with the movie was competing for an 'over the top' award.

terrible, terrible.

aalavanthaan padathiku kovil katti kumbadalaam.

-varun

Anonymous said...

@Aravind
You call a review where the reviewer considers the makeup of Kamal in this movie to be perfect, as genuine?

The movie had about 20 mins that were good and the rest were just torture to sit through.

Mukundhan said...

Adichu pudichu ticket vangindu vandha disappointment nu soldriye da. Adhu seri, kuruvikke kaasu waste pannavanuku Dasavatharam oru porutta?

Anonymous said...

I just saw the movie and I thought it was good.

ur comment section seems more like a congregation for anti-dasavatharam.

Anonymous said...

@karthik Sriram ( LKS)

The movies is not bad as tell it to be...the movie is certainly watchable ...better than Billa,kuruvi,atm if i might add....

U say that the Muslim,paati and dalit leader character are a waste...then it means that u did not understand the basic theme of the movie well...Everything happens for a reason...

Each of the characters bring a consequnce to the movie. Please go check it out once more..

If people can watch a dud like Billa then they can sure watc h a good ( not great ) movie like dasavatharam....

Anonymous said...

As people think Oscar ravi is never going suffer even if the film bombs..

He is a clever man...Because of the hype he has created and the positive reviews coming out Dasa is sure to have housefull shows for atleast 2 weeks by which time he would make more than what he had invested because of the scale of the release of the film...

bala said...

to hawkeye,

well, i initially doubted your review..but it wasn't false in most areas...but for the ego of kamal u mentioned, i differ there...kamal has put the hard effort but wasted for sake of 10..as i said in some forums before..the 10 characters killed the 11th character thought process.

but there is connectedness..Science and religion concept could have been emphasised more than indulgency in CG...blame on CG team

kamal wanted Big Bang with 10 and chaos but he didn't have the right tools for CG....all he can bank is his screenplay (but diluted due to 10 roles) and his own performance which again is diluted for 10...nevertheless good attempt for sure..his hard work is visible but afraid not his smart work...he was smart in Apoorva sahodhargal and hence its success.

i'm a fanatic but with well versed in certain areas of philosophy and religion , kamal can scripted a much improved screenplay had he not thought of big number '10'...u cannot really call as ego 100%

Anonymous said...

some of kamal characters makeup reminded of ajith in citizen...very funny to say the leaset....LOL...LOL

Anonymous said...

Please ensure XBOX gets banned. This helps dumb audience for ulaganayagan ultalakidi.

Many places you are plugging Crazy Mohan MTech. Are you related to him?

Rishikesh of Hindu (retired now) says your English has improved a lot!

http://charuonline.com/june08/thinnai.html

Anonymous said...

I agree with you dear. This is an utter nonsense movie. I don't care what effort he put in to come with this f'ing movie but my $27.50 is gone waste!

Anonymous said...

Don't you use brians while watching the movie...what you expect from a movie...a crap like sivaji or a much more crap like kuruvi...Here a hero who has put such a hard work and dedication in making up the movie with 10 stunning roles..at least appreciate his dedication towards cinema...All your people's review suck big time...you hardcore idiotic rajini fans

Anonymous said...

Most kamal fans are saying that There is no story in Rajini, vijay or ajith fans. But unlike these actors, It is only kamal who claims that he is "extra-ordinary", "intelligent", "different from the rest", "oscar award winner"..... All other actors are very humble enough to accept the fact that they are very very ordinary. So if kamal says he is very different from the rest, he should prove himself. Unfortunately with every film like mumbai circus & now with dasa, he is proving that he is just an ordinary actor. Everything about this film is average except for special effects.

Anonymous said...

Indha padatha paarkurathukku Intelligence vera venumaam. Athu vera moonu naalu thadavai paartha thaan puriyumaa. Dei pannadaingala, makkal kaasa pudungurathukku vera ethachum sollungada.

Anonymous said...

guyz who don't know appreciate good things.


screwed up rajini fans.

Pradeep Kumar said...

Good review. I was thinking of the same thing. I read this stupid f'ed up rediff review and went with higher expectations. Loved the first song too. But then, I expected something called a story. Coming from Kamal Haasan's stable, the film sucked. I did not think Kamal will screw this up big time. Though I have rarely seen over hyped good films.

bp121 said...

Movie is extra-ordinary. This man has got some problem. I pity this man who couldnt understand a thing.

Dont go by this review. Go watch the movie.

Venki said...

This particular review has got a comments in another website desipundit.. I am pasting them together here so that people get those viewpoints too.
In any case, the comments here seems to be by some set of friends of this guy who watched the movie together and together decided to hate it...So people who see the comments before watching the movie... Take them with a pinch of salt...

Venki said...

Sri
June 13th, 2008, 1:39 pm | #

That was a highly offensive comment about a decent movie… Be it Kamal’s ideologies, it is still his.. You are being as much a fanatic as he is by totally rejecting a line of thought.. And just because Kamal has conveyed that, there is no reason why the movie must be hated..
The movie I agree could have been much better for the hype and there are several reasons to blame.. But the reason you give about him pressing his ideologies into the movie is just rambling…. I could see the kind of guy you are by seeing that you named your webbsite desipundit!!! You bloody religious fanatics!!!

Duraish
June 13th, 2008, 2:26 pm | #

HEllo, i saw the movie… it was awesome……
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ashoka
June 13th, 2008, 11:09 pm | #

This is an outrageous comment.
Plz if u can be a little decent while writing.Your writing itself stinks so y believe in a review from an awkward person.
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Krishna
June 14th, 2008, 12:32 am | #

Just mind your words.
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Arun
June 14th, 2008, 12:34 am | #

Its really heartening to see such reveiws on one of the legend of indian cinema. The flaws apart, if a movie like om shanti om can be such a hit why cant this be. We should learn to appreciate the unique effort. If a hollywood movie attempts a different attempt we hail and praise. Kamal has to consider producer who has spent 90 crores and thats the reason he has included commercial elements in it. He knows how to make a movie as natural as Hollywood. But then such efforts in the past have been neglected by our own audience even though it had critical acclaim. Please stop such reviews to save indian cinema and its attempt to creativity.
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Hari
June 14th, 2008, 3:49 am | #

I beleive you didnt have the understading ability abopt the story.Better,you watch and come again.Let me see whether you brain starts working at that time …
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AG

Venki said...

AG
June 14th, 2008, 5:31 am | #

Just saw the movie and I thought it was a pretty good effort. There was a decent story line and this was a good masala film after a long time. Dialogs were also decent unlike what I heard.Having this comment on DP would probably just discourage people from even seeing it and just because it was one of the first reviews, it does not have to be featured on DP.
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Arun Prakash Iyer
June 14th, 2008, 5:59 am | #

Awesome review.. I just saw the movie and I agree with the review.. It’s just a piece of crap!
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Arun Prakash Iyer
June 14th, 2008, 6:02 am | #

The movie is just a piece of crap.. Every person who says that the review is outrageous, should be ardent Kamal fans, who would never agree that its a flop even if his movies were a flop.
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MAALYA SINGH
June 14th, 2008, 6:19 am | #

IN MY VIEW KAADHALUKU MARIYATHAI IS BETTER THAN THIRUPAATCHI

IT HAD GOOD CAST WITH THE SOFT TOUCH OF GLAMMOUR FROM K.R.VIJAYA

SIVAJI CUD HAVE DONE BETTER ROLE THAN IN TIRUPAATCHI

DANUSH SUD HAVE BEEN THE SON OF SIVAJI INSTEAD OF RAJINI

IF THT HAD MUSICED BY THYAGARAJA BHAGAVAATHAR IT CUD HAVE COME AS A SPLENDID MOVIE
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surya
June 14th, 2008, 6:20 am | #

desipundit hits the nail on the head with his assessment
dasavatharam is all talk no cock
bakwaas is the word
some roles are so silly it becomes a joke
and the makeup is pretty shoddy
very well said its egomaiacs fart…

and any sensible movie watcher will come out releived the movie is over.

i can see a few comments here who are so pissed - the reason for their anger is kamal has let these so called fans down miserably. since they cant bark at their demi god they are barking here.

and whats wrong with the name desi pundit? if you dont like his name why do crap here?
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JK
June 14th, 2008, 10:03 am | #

You may want to leave these comments at the original blog where the review was published. There is a heated discussion going on there.

Venki said...

Sivaji
June 14th, 2008, 10:08 am | #

well, it isn’t the movie that stinks as mentioned by this esteemed self proclaimed desibandit..oops…pundit…it’s actually this pundit that stinks inevitably, trying to hide in his own ego and blindfolding himself from the greatness of a masterclass of a movie.

really man, you need to fuckin’ grow up. may god damn u!
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Patrix
June 14th, 2008, 10:47 am | #

Aiyo! I guess DesiPundit has started attracting Rediff commenters.
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aes
June 14th, 2008, 11:36 am | #

By giving an absolute negative review, the reader may tend to believe the other way.

Anyway you have your right to criticize a movie on the accepted norms.
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Hawkeye
June 14th, 2008, 12:19 pm | #

its amazing how some people can browse the web but still not know how to find and click a link in a web page.

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Arun Prakash Iyer
June 14th, 2008, 1:03 pm | #

I have written several reviews for movies, but I have never written a review for such a lousy movie! I request you to read this review and watch the movie, and then read the review again. I am sure you will agree to my comments atleast 50% unless you are an ardent Kamal fan. I am not sure if I carry any personal bias against this movie, but I feel I am writing this review with complete honesty.

First of all, the movie is one of the most super-lengthiest movies I have ever seen. Metaphorically speaking, I felt as if the movie was longer than all three parts of “Lord of the Rings” put together, sans the story, sans screenplay, sans music, sans continuity, sans logic, sans romance, sans…. etc.,

It is very obvious that he has struggled to bring the movie to an end. Too many characters for the ten roles he wanted to do.. I guess he wanted to beat “Sivaji Ganesan” by acting one more role to break the record of nine roles in the movie “Navaratri”. For that, I felt that a few characters were forcibly inserted.

All that said, He has touched the sensitive danger spots of every sect of the hindu culture. He has spared none! Now I understand why there were protests and court cases on the movie. However, he didn’t want to leave out and hurt other religions as well, so he inserted one character each for all other prominent religions in India, Christianity, Islam and Sikhism. I wonder what made him to leave out Jainism, Buddhism (ah I guess the Japanese was a Buddhist but it was not explicitely mentioned in the movie), Taoism, Confucianism, Paganism, blah blah-ism etc., :P

At one point he tries to be very apologetic when he says “நான் கடவுள் இல்லைன்னு சொல்லலங்க, கடவுள் இருந்தா நல்லா இருக்கும்னு தான் சொல்றேன்..”, I guess he is totally confused whether to accept his own identity as being born a Hindu or whether to be an atheist.

Other unnecessary things were many songs, bringing Karunanidhi in the picture, Bush character, Avtar singh etc etc., Overall it made us feel that the whole movie was unnecessary.

I have seen goofs in movies, but this is the first time I am seeing a movie in goofs.

My Verdict:
Kamal has tried to state his stance on religion, environment, politics, terrorism etc., but religion sticks out a mile, and others are suppressed. His stance on religion is confusing as well. He has assumed that the mass is very intelligent which shows his stupidity. He has tried to say too many things and finally fails to deliver it.

That said, “I won’t say the movie is a flop, but the movie is a disaster.”
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Suresh
June 14th, 2008, 1:06 pm | #

Hats off to Desipundit for writing what they believe.

I am no big fan of Kamal Hassan (and I don’t speak Tamil) but I watched with an open mind expecting to have fun…just like I had watching Sivaji.
The movie is ridiculous (Except Kamal Hassan’s performance) and the graphics that were shown were one of the worst ever. And when was the last time we saw a leading lady be so annoying on screen?

I don’t understand why fans are getting so defensive about the review. The movie sucks big time. Accept it and move on.
I for one look forward to his next movie.

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Raj Mohan
June 14th, 2008, 2:24 pm | #

Hi Friends,
What the heck of a comment was that in the name of a review. Dasavatharam is one cracker of a movie. Splendid, astonishing and full speed gripping entertainment movie. Heaven’s sake please do not write stuff like this..
This would be the last time i would see this site for a review comment and don’t turn down people from visiting your website by writing crap like that one..
Write comments that are valid, true and well accessed.
I’m not a Kamal fan but got to admit he’s done a splendid job . Hats off KAMAL. He’s too good an actor and its too good a movie.

And for our friend “Suresh” who wrote the earlier comment about being open minded . If you think you are open minded please think again. How better would you weave a story with 10 characters ?
As far as your animation part it wasn’t Pixer who designed it but we all got the message. Who do you think you are this YO-Yo guy in Anniyan who evolved all of a sudden who watches all this so called funky movies.. Sorry dude you and your like minded “DesiPundit” (where did our friend choose this name from :), sounds to me like a ardent porn star..)miserably failed in your so called eloquent ways of writing comments.
By the way guys could you please spell the works critics or comments to all of us…
No offenses meant.. I know you are cool guys.. :)
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SRI
June 14th, 2008, 4:14 pm | #

Hey,

I first commented for the article, and I feel heartened to see the comments pouring in about the non-sense in the name of review. As raj mohan points out, it is a great achievement to have so good a graphics in an Indian movie. Remember, even the English movies did not start out making excellent graphics right from the beginning. People evolve to perfection.. Dont right away jump into it… And this film is undoubtedly the first step for Indian movies into that…

Sreeni said...

//...Here a hero who has put such a hard work and dedication in making up the movie with 10 stunning roles..at least appreciate his dedication towards cinema//
Bullshit.People like you are the cause for these kind of Stupid movies. Why should I appreciate that the hero has put in a hard work on creating and acting in 10 different roles or 15.. We go to a movie expecting to watch a movie with good story, good screenplay, good acting ( by everyone )...If we all wanted to watch "Avataras" of Kamal, he can take a 3 hour movie where he can come in ALL possible roles. Just don't call it a "cinema"..If kamal has REAL dedication towards Cinema, then let him use his constuctive brain to consider real good stories and make them as movies. Not conjure up a haphazard array of characters just to claim that "I acted in 10 roles, I acted in 10 roles..".

- A frustrated and irritated EX-Kamal Fan.

Sreeni

crsathish said...

i think u need a very serious checkup. relax. take a deep breath. 3 hrs movie depicting 10 different characters starting from DC to Kanyakumari, its not possible for anybody if they don't do hardwork for 1000 days. its only possible for kamalhaasan and team.

Anonymous said...

The movie is watchable once. I believe Kamal is very confused about what he wants to convey. Were they running short of money? Why were those make-up's so bad? What were they thinking.. Why does he need all these make-up's? He could have done a better job with very less make-up.
Why can't he make a simple movie?

Anonymous said...

Good for kamal and Fans!Watch the movie if you have 3 hours to waste..or.. need a REMOTE CONTROL
GOOD for HOME BOX OFFICE :)

Pradeep Kumar said...

//
Hey,

I first commented for the article, and I feel heartened to see the comments pouring in about the non-sense in the name of review. As raj mohan points out, it is a great achievement to have so good a graphics in an Indian movie. Remember, even the English movies did not start out making excellent graphics right from the beginning. People evolve to perfection.. Dont right away jump into it… And this film is undoubtedly the first step for Indian movies into that…
//

People who are "evolving" should not proclaim to be "UZhaga Naayagan" and also have a 5 minute song on that!

Vinith said...

The movie is really worth watching.

Please go and watch.

Dont miss the first 10 mins.

Suresh said...

hahaha @ point 2 of your trivia update.

anita said...

my views exactly! finished watching late night show and put up a similar post bang after it just to get the movie out of my system. wish I had read the review before booking the tickets

Sridhar Visvanath said...

I do not agree to your hard verdict. Infact I found the movie to be interesting.
First, there need not be a huge story to make a movie interesting. Details and Screenplay makes the difference.

Muthalvan has a single line story as that of Gentleman and Indian

I feel that Kamal is pretty decent in Dasa screenplay.

Back to story, this story has lot of similarities with a short story by Sujatha sir where the scientist and his understudy goes after a
new element which has properties similar to Uranium (new element is discovered by the scientist).
Infact, if you read that, it is actually almost the same story. Of course, Sujatha's story is even more gripping than Dasa.

However, Dasa first half was gripping and fast. When it came to intermission, it wasn't dragging at all. (Compare that to Aalavandan...:-)

There are two reasons to you having felt bad. One: lot of expecations from Kamal and also because of the hype factor.
One reason why I liked it very much might be the corollary of that, negative hype by hawkeye and others and hence less expectations.

Coming to makeup, make up of Fletcher was not all that gaudy once we adjust to that tone and make up in first scene. Yes, last scene when he swallows the
vial was bad. Bush first few scenes were not good. But later it was ok.

Coming to jokes, this is not meant to be a comedy movie like MMKR. So it is like comparing idlis with dosas. (even though both comes out of the same dough:-)
Dasa is of a thriller genre. yes, there were attempts at comedy. 70% of it was well received. 30% kamal tries real hard to convince audience to
appreciate the humor which makes it look bad.

Kamal is a Jack of all trades, he is good at comedy and scripting, but he need not be able to do it as good as say Crazy or Sujatha.
(of course Crazy is nowhere in the league of Sujatha is another point altogether).

Kamal should stop singing these songs that does not suit him. Anbe Sivam song is a wise choice. Oh Oh sanam is a bad choice (I would have Daler Mahendi
kind of guys sing it rather).

Second half was kind of dragging. Also, just branding one group (in this case brahmins) as somehow less human is not right at all. When will Kamal grow.
His logic is simple, Americans are bad, Brahmins are bad, muslims are holy. There is nothing bad or good about any group of people.
For a person who is generally intelligent in other aspects of life, Kamal seems to be pretty zero on this subject.

So, yes, his views in general is not balanced and it reflects badly on the movie too. Compare that to Anbe Sivam, it was infact better.
Even though Anbe Sivam also did not have a good balancing point to the protagonist (Madhavan;s acting was awesome, but his character did not have
the balancing point to Sivam's communist point of view). This is a great difference to Sujatha who is agnostic about God in general, but is not militant
in his views.

Coming back to Dasa, I found it to be good. There need not be 10 characters all played by Kamal. But there is again no fault with that either.
There are some british comedy where a single guy plays all the characters and one will not even know that.

So, go with a human eye, not an hawk eye when you want to watch this movie.

Sridhar Visvanath said...

Also the stunts by fletcher and agility of character does not have any equivalent in tamil movies. When did you ever have a villain who is as agile as a jackie chan or the villain from Terminator-2. Fletcher character is pretty cool.

Compare the fight scenes in Dasa to the Drive-in fight scene in Sivaji. You will know what Iam talking about then.

Fletcher character is superbly done. The worst characterization is the Afghan character.

jingili said...

Its not fair to compare das with Rajini's utter flop baba..This muv is may nt b gr8,but nt as pointless,as stpd as baba..Ninga rempa strict strict strict..

Anonymous said...

Hey did u notice,the match that goes on the tube while some flash news (in tamil????) comes,is a 2003 match..

mekhala said...

An expensive 'fancy dress' drama. Very trying.

blackaccord said...

hawkeye, i was stunned and surprised to read your review... I couldn't have put it in writing better than you did... To say the movie was a disappointment is an understatement.. For the hype and hoopla created this was a disaster...

Shimju said...

This movie is a waste. You can start thinking it as a fancy dress competition while watching the movie. The first few miuntes- the 12th century episode is worth watching after that movie is total bullshit!!! very dragging, kill that Asin first- Irritating!!!

Iam a Kamal Fan and with all respect to him I must say that you better act- thats where your strenght lies. Dont write stories and screenplays- not your part.

- your loving fan..

DEVAN EKAMBARAM said...

hi man, this is one of the best reviews ive ever read..DAMN!!! Im yet to watch the film. i had dubbed for the character DR SURESH, didnt get to see much of the other rushes when doing it. I was pretty curious to see how well this film does for all the hype they made around it. I def agree the music was fuck all. With kamal being such a gr8 actor i dont know why he has to do such idiotic work to prove to his ego that hes super talented. Anyway lets hope they at least recover their dough from this film as i doubt theres gonna be any repeat audiences..ONCE AGAIN LOVED THE REVIEW!!!

DEVAN EKAMBARAM

Jeeves said...

Extremely lop-sided review. You seem to have gone into an Indiana Jones type of movie expecting some great acting like Godfather and terrific screenplay like some Shakespeare in love.

The problem with Kamal doing 10 roles SO DAMN WELL is that people think it is 10 different people, and then the movie loses quite a bit of its shine.

This is an out and out commercial movie. With a lot of messages and an overarching theme of chaos theory. That much, the screenplay and story have handled pretty well without literally any loose ends. (Do you go into logic of where Chidambaram / Chennai etc. is in a treasure chase movie?) Certainly, the story and screenplay have maintained pace and that is not easy in a 3 hour movie.

Computer graphics - you may be in the US, but dont compare the CG to Hollywood movies. Please compare to Indian movies and it is definetely top-notch that way. Hollywood movies with any little animation are done at costs ranging around 50 - 100$ MM, so its not a joke.

The songs were never meant to be stand-alone big ones. Hence downplaying that is not such a bad idea.

This is not an MMKR movie with full humor for a Crazy Mohan to fit in. There are subtle nuances of humor (only Naidu character in the movie can bring in the same) which Kamal has handled very well e.g. Bush's ignorance etc.

There is a reason why every character is there. Think national and international integration - every single character including the Kabuli muslim (who pbly has the shortest character) brings something into the movie in terms of the different messages be it about God or about nature or weapons of mass destruction etc.

Sore points - yes Asin was plain irritating, for all you know thats how the character may have necessitated her to be - so she actually did her job well.

Biggest sore point for me - because of the large amount of make-up involved, Kamal's awesome expressions are limited to just a few roles.

Certainly worth a watch whether you are a Kamal fan or not, just for the sheer effort of Kamalhassan, and as a standalone movie.

Genuine feel said...

I have loved many Kamal movies. This is one is very below average Kamal movie. Even Kamal Fans will struggle to watch this movie few times.

Role -1 - Iyengar – Agragaram people may like – Why we need this role at the first place! – Dies - Okay .
Role-2 – Govind – Scientist – Average
Role 3 – Fletcher : Kamal can start acting as Vilan as we can’t see real Hero Kamal properly in the movie Ravikumar ZERO story level . – Good – Dies in the end
Role 4 – Japanese Kung-fu master –kills the importance of hero Kamal (Scientist)
Role 5 - Black man - Vincent – Dies – Waste of time
Role 6 – Avatar Singh – Waste of time – For Kamal’s age – Good pair - Jayapradha!
Role 7 – 7 feet Muslim – Utter waste of time
Role 8 – Naidu – Good replacing comedian - average
Role-9 – Krishnaveni Patti – Old lady – Again genuine waste of time
Role 10 – Bush – Horrible – Hope producers do not get into legal issues.

So bottom line:

1. 3 Hours without a proper story.Vilan Kamal is okay to some extent, Kamal Iyengar screws his community with idol being thrown, ditched etc., Very harsh for religious people to take.
2. Songs – Pathetic - Smoking time apart from interval
3. Ravikumar’s touch Missing – No story at all!
4. Pity producers – Not even worth few million rupees why waste billion!
5. Ladies hate due to many killings and more violence (Big loss!)

This cannot win hearts of literates or illiterates. It is very high time to stop delivering what Kamal wanted and deliver what public and producer wanted (i.e.) public wants decent entertainer and producer should not be in streets. This movie may be good for Kamal claiming him to be a Universal hero, but overall lots of people will suffer.

Sorry Kamal & Ravikumar – A real waste movie delivered for the price tag of the movie hyped!

don.juan.aks said...

Extremely lop-sided review. You seem to have gone into an Indiana Jones type of movie expecting some great acting like Godfather and terrific screenplay like some Shakespeare in love.

Jeeves: So you go into a Kamal movie not expecting great acting and a terrific screenplay? What do you expect?

The problem with Kamal doing 10 roles SO DAMN WELL is that people think it is 10 different people, and then the movie loses quite a bit of its shine.

Please read that again. So a movie loses its shine because multiple roles are played (never mind that it is by the same otherwise brilliant actor) really well?

REALLY?

Guys, whether the movie is good or bad is a different matter altogether. Stop all comparisons to movies like Kuruvi (LKS, i am referring to you), and Billa (the assorted anons) while trying to explain why this movie is better.

I don't watch a Kamal movie and expect it to be just better than run of the mill formula movies that are dime a dozen. In fact instead of watching those, I will pop in a old Thalaivar DVD from where these johnny come lately types take all their cues anyways

But when a Kamal movie releases, I go there expecting to watch a brilliant thespian in action, not gimmicks. For example, IT is a gimmick to dress up like GWB when you can easily allude to his presence. Also IT is a gimmick to dress up like a Westerner when you can get a good American actor to play the same role (a number Indian movies have done that).

But I am sure none of us is qualified enough to even advice Kamal in this regard, who, IMHO, is one of the better students of cinema in India. To me, watching this movie is going to be like watching one of my favorite teachers make juvenile mistakes in class. And that sucks.

You can't fault Hawkeye for having a similar thought. Understand that before you jump up and down.

Hawkeye: Thalaiva, do you really need this to go to the Rediff comments level? I think you better close comments, only because nothing valid seems to be said here.

Anonymous said...

Very good review! but a lot of hate it sounds like. haven't seen the movie myself but have listened to the songs though. i would have to disagree with you slightly on that. "kallai mattum kandaal" was haunting IMO and "oh oh sanam" was very catchy. 3 out of 5 for the songs along though. give them another try!!

Anupadmaja said...

People who havent seen the movie, please explain on what basis you are qualifying the review as being good.

Saravanan said...

I thinks its natural for fans to defend Kamal as i would defend my favorite hero. Here are the positives and negatives of this movie

Positives :
1.Kamal's acting in different roles is good.
2.Story has been well researched for historic facts and realism in data.

Negatives :
1.Some characteres are disjoint from the story.
2.Asin seems annoying with language delivery as well as her over usage of " Perumale ".

I won't veto this movie for a complete bull shit. People should watch and then decide on this.

The movie revolves around Kamal. The same was the case with Kuruthi Punal. But there sort of story & his performance created a good combination. Here the combination seems missing. Though some of his makeup's don stitch well to the story, he has performed well in a few roles. But i don't see the other actors in the movie augmenting his performance. Asin is pathetic both as Nambi's wife as well as Govind's keep. The make up could have been done better. The singer, martial arts, tall kamal all these people could have probably been replaced with some other roles who could have fit into the story well. His portrayal as a villian is disgusting, we had seem him in good negative roles but this one i don't know it sort of didn't suit him.

The Dasavatharam group should have probably reduced the pre-marketing hype which they created for this movie. They should have probably kept some of the facts unreleased.

I wonder what K.S Ravikumar could have done in this movie other than dancing for Ulaga Nayagan song. I don't think he did any proper work for this movie to earn a remuneration of 7 crores.

Avani said...

Hi Bharat

Awesome review of Dasavathram, I religiously wait for your movie reviews! I'm waiting to hear what you think about 'The Happening':)

Could you please post pictures of the drawings you photographed in the caves, on your North India trip, I've been wanting to see those from the time you mentioned about them in you Ashok Banker Ramayana series.

Best wishes.

«charlie≡thotti» said...

Looks like we concur.

Anonymous said...

why u need justice of each character. when Govind run from one place to anaother, he met all other characters thats all. overall movie is worth to watch.critising is easy. it is good attempt, soon we can reach hollywood perferction, in all depts.

alpine path said...

Very true! I hadn't seen your warning and had booked the tickets in Seattle for Saturday. I was deeply disappointed as well. Nalla kaathula poo suthinaangayaa!! :(

Anonymous said...

>> Dasavatharam fails because Kamal Haasan bit more than anyone could ever chew. It is an egomaniac's fart. Don't go anywhere near it. It stinks. >>

You rock.

if you take out his movies with crazy mohan, most others would be an egomaniac's fart. Like mumbai express - the moron read 'inglis' paper stories about bombay bar girls and thought he can win awards. To know his 'respate' for women, you should only check out the 'oh ranga sri ranga' song on kushbu from singara velan.

>> Several times I thought "che nee ivalavudhaana".

avan eppavume avvalavudhaan.

Anonymous said...

Just two words to Kamal - "Stop Acting"

Anonymous said...

man..it was just what i've thought...this movie was made with full of craps...
i've wasted my money, time and energy(i queued almost for 1/2 hour to get the ticket) for this movie..

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Nilu said...

Anupadmaja,

Am I to understand that one has to watch a movie to judge how good or bad its review was?

I must say, you have now made me forget how idiotic this review was.

Jeeves said...

don.juan.aks: Yes - there is a basic difference here. It is not an Anbe Sivam types of movie where story and histrionics are given importance. Here grandeur and the way the man has handled the roles is what is given importance.

And yes I do reiterate - because he has done the roles so well, the movie looks less spectacular, cause you just cannot appreciate the fact that it is the same guy who is doing all this in a single scene - he has acted the equivalent of at least 4 to 5 full-time roles in a single 3 hr movie.

BTW, I dont know whether you decide the authenticity of the comments. Some of your own sentences smack big time of the "Rediff" class of comments!

Let go off your stereotypes - kamal in this movie is not about acting (very tough given the amount of make-up on his face) Kamal in this movie (or in aalavandhaan for that matter) is to bring out 10 different roles in the same movie and prove it is possible, with a coherent pacy storyline to keep the viewer engaged enough and appreciate the mammoth effort of that one person!

Anonymous said...

>> Kamal in this movie (or in aalavandhaan for that matter) is to bring out 10 different roles in the same movie and prove it is possible, >>

he could have proved it and the movie could still suck.

>> with a coherent pacy storyline to keep the viewer engaged enough and appreciate the mammoth effort of that one person! >>

people are selfish. pardon them for thinking one person's mammoth ego trip is not their entertainment.

Anonymous said...

looks like in his next movie, he will act in all Roles..So no more acting chance to any one..

He should have concentrated much on story instead of make up.
Some of the make up is horrible, Looks like he is wearing a MASK..

Few make ups are pretty Good..:)

Overall
good make up bad story.
good technology badly handled.
good comedy at bad place.
good team bad performance.

Anonymous said...

it is definitely not as bad as its given in this blog.. if anyone cant appreciate this much efforts of Kamal Haasan then he / she is not fit to review about any movie.. this movie is definitely a lot lot better than all the other stupidest and idiotic movies VIJAY AND AJITH and even RAJINI have acted in the past.. of course there are some flaws in the movie.. but that doesn't make the movie pathetic.. who else will dare to do such roles and take so much effort... this reviewer can better start using his reviewing talents for VIJAY and AJITH movies... or do something else worthwhile..

Maddy said...

>Movie is just like the way Kamal talks in any interviews/meetings, In his own confusing way. It's his problem with over intelligence(???)

Lets summarise pros/cons:

1. First 20mins as Iyengar. It's good.
2. Fletcher's acting, slang, but not makeup(its just a mask)
3. First half is somewhat tolerable.
4. CG is better.
5. Old lady's slang. Typically like a agrahara paati. It's good
6. Balram Naidu's slang. But felt like it was little over.

Cons:
1. Makeups.
2. Screenplay
3. Songs.
4. second half - man....you get a feeling like you watched 3 movies sitting at a strech :-) huh.
5. very dragging 2nd half.
6. Uneccesary roles.

Finally, at end of the movie... You get slight headache.

$15 waste man. Probably worth for half.

When movie started, kamal fans started shouting like....thalaivaaaaaaa.....etc etc..
But after 10mins, no sound until movie ends. Coz ppl were still fguring out whats going on, and wondering whether this movie will ever end ;)

Dissapointing from Kamal.
Kamal shud stick on to ONLY acting going forward.

------BEWARE--------

Suresh K said...

Hello sir,

You have just taken words from our minds.

I agree 100% to your views.

Anupadmaja said...

"Am I to understand that one has to watch a movie to judge how good or bad its review was?"

My point of view:

Without watching the movie, one can qualify a review as being well written. Qualifying as a good or bad review I presume needs some amount of judgement in comparison to the real object being reviewed. I agree to comments of the type that Jillu madrasi and others left saying, if your review says this, may be i will think twice about going for the movie/oh he seems to have done an Aalavandhan. But to sit and argue at length about how Kamal is in the movie based on the review without watching the movie is annoying to read - sounds like anyone that said bad things about the actor generally would have gathered the same comments.

Anupadmaja said...

Kovam vera enakku ... mannichikko ba :)

Anonymous said...

Your comments seem one sided to me. Although I have to agree with you on some part, you could have been less aggressive in your review by pointing out some positives. Something I came across to be fairly well written, check this out
http://chiselandrock.blogspot.com/2008/06/dasavatharam.html

Anonymous said...

The Real Review from a true Kamal fan

Its very easy to comment a movie very bad. but if we think little bit behind the screen..then we will know how and what the painful is..Iam a Kamal fan and i agree to some of other friends comment like poor makeup, not necessarily 10 roles required and kind of with no punch in story.
If you forget our indian mentality (that we need good stories) then we will enjoy this movie..its like English movie..but 10 yr old english movie..
the screen play..the movie will move very fast..starting to end..the screens will stick to the story..hats off to this..it is not very easy to do now a days..
Inspector role, villain role was good
songs were matching to the movie script..can anyone challenge like this in any recent movies?
He is trying to achieve and doing something good for industry.
for guys who are in abroad..may be knowing many new technologies and new places..ppl in india may not be knowing that..
while watching the movie..u may not like it..but when u come back home and think about the movie..u will feel like to watch it again..

Anonymous said...

Comments are a little heated up here. But the truth is that the movie didn't live up to the hype. I appreciate Kamal doing 10 roles, which i doubt whether anybody else could have done .. but a seemingly obnoxious presence of Kamal in every frame is a little annoying.

The story could have been made a little better. But the overall package doesn't seem to tick except for Kamal's 10 roles ...

bala said...

i was disappointed on first time viewing...second time viewing , the characters grow on you (not all)..and it makes sense also..overall not a class one not a gimmick....
Worth for kamal's acting and guts to do...flecher's mannerism, poovaragan simply stole the show..

I'm afraid whether the commentators here atleast tried to read inbetween the characters as to why they are ??
summa waste, bad, solladinga..
Puriyalana bad solladinga ..

tapas said...

i saw the movie and pretty much agree with your review.. the screenplay was horrible.. kamal could easily have cut out 4-5 characters and made it into a 2 hour good guy-bad guy movie..

simha said...

"If you are throwing out nonsense, your name better be Rajinikanth."

--your blog should have its screen name as Rajnikanth

juggernaut said...

This is a one time watch movie. No repeat audience wud be there. Sivaji was more entertaining than dasa. Kamal shudnt take up story and screenplay. Still wondering where 60+crores are being spent. Computer graphics were very normal. Even Krishh movie graphics were better. some kamal fans like me are more raged after seeing this movie. Can jus praise effort by kamal.

bala said...

hawkeye surprising to see that u have discussed anything about chaos and butterfly effect...You updated the post but seem to delve on the vaishnative era comparison mode...so i feel ur review is more biased.

Anonymous said...

[i]"He did a similar mistake in Hey Ram"[/i]

This clearly shows that whatever he does, u are going to trash him...The mistake of hey ram is he thought to enligten few souls and u call as mistake..

Seriously ur review lack stuff..u r good for koundamani kind of nakal...i appreciate that for sure

Anonymous said...

you seem to be biased a lot. you were so excited initially about the snaps he had given and penned a story around it. Kamal has done lot of home work and he has put the script well. i dont see any reason why you call this movie horrible. anyhow it is your call but also think that to do 10 characters (that was the USP here) takes lot of effort than remaking masla Tamil movies

gunz said...

Hello Sir... This Review is absolutely nonsense & this is from Some Anti-Kamal or Anti-Dasavatharam Guy.... If u r going to c Logic... Better stop Cing Movies..& go on with life... Rather than Praising a Super Man Effort !...he is a Lengend

Prasad said...

hey hawkeye
brilliant review ! I felt the same ..may be dasavathara cud ve been a better cartoon movie :)

Anonymous said...

Holy shit! you are awesome Bro' . I was wondering how can you put into words exactly what I have felt.......You are COOL man! Hats off!!!!! you deserve a champagne treat bro'

sundar said...

1. Krishna avatar - Vincent Poovaraghavan

Lord krishna is actually a dalit, he is dark-skinned [shyamalam]. He saved draupadi when she was being violated and he was the actual diplomat in mahabharatham. Lord krishna dies of an arrow striking his lower leg. Now look at how vincent was introduced.. he appears when asin is about to be molested and he saves her like draupadi. Vincent is the dalit diplomat, fights for land issue [soil issue to be exact] and dies from the metal rod striking his leg. Oh even five of vincent's men are drugged at P. Vasu's.. sounds familiar???

2. Balarama avatar - Balarama naidu
This is an easy given. as the name suggests and the role personifies you can easily get it.

3. Mathsya avatar - Ranagaraja nambi
nambi is thrown into water in an act of trying to save lord from being thrown into sea, though vainly. what more clue do you want?

4. Varaha avatar - Krishnaveni paatti
During the mukunda song, krishnaveni paatti does varaha avatar in the shadow puppetry. The frame freezes on it for a second. there is the clue. Moreover, in varaha avatar lord actually hides earth so as to protect life forms. Here too krishnaveni hides the germs - life form inside the statue so as to protect.

5. Vamana avatar - Kalifulla khan
remember in vamana avatar, lord vishnu takes the vishvaroopa, that is the giant form! Hence the giant kalifulla here symbolises vamana avatar

6. Parasurama avatar - Christian Fletcher
Parasurama is actually on an angry killing spree and killed 21 generations of the particular kshatriya vamsa. Hence the real KILLER... Guess what thats what our Fletcher is! He comes around with the gun [modern upgrade for axe] and kills everyone around. I have to check if he kills 21 people though. :-D

7. Narasimha avatar - Shingen Narahashi
first of all the name itself is a play on the words singam [means lion in tamil] and narasim

Mahesh said...

Sundar,

this is the worsshhtu comment in the 104.

"Boo varagan": Can this be more obvious? How can it be Krishna Avatharam?

Hakkie: where is the BooVaraha temple?

Thilakshan said...

1. Baba didn’t fail commercially because Rajini was speaking about something that was close to his heart. Baba failed because most people have learnt to take things at so much face value that they found it incredulous that a man could be 2000 years old.

I mean, think about it. Some of the most impactful films ever made were because they were close to the filmmakers true passions. I hardly see why such passion cannot translate onto an audience unless - UNLESS - it is too “out of the ordinary”.

And an audience who cannot accept it is more a reflection of people’s inability to accept unique thoughts, and hardly a reflection of the thinker.

2. Kamal, be he athiest, agnostic, anti-semetic, or pious - the very fact that he can openly view such a thing from different angles is a credit to him.

In an industry where a film seems to be judged more on HOW MANY PEOPLE BOUGHT TICKETS… and less on its artistic value, the very fact that a guy would bother to risk telling a story that brings about the exact reaction as on this page, is an example of courage - even if only a little. It seems to be far more courage than the fools who slunk in a corner, and come out to throw a rotten tomato just because somebody is trying to do something original.

The thing is, it doesn’t matter if you succeed at an original work, or fail at it. If you at least tried, that deserves credit.

So, stand back a little, and think about what you’re doing with your own lives. People go to enormous lengths, placing such intense passion into the films that are most loved, and simultaneously most hated. Stand back and think, before you run the risk of being just a number on a meaningless vote. That is not what life is about.

3. If trying to make a different film is now the new classification of egotism (just cause someone won’t conform to the usual braindead drivel that’s sure to be a blockbuster hit), then you folks have twisted reality enough to choke yourselves blue.

Trying something that runs the high risk of being a flop IS NOT A SIGN OF EGOTISM. And if people keep giving Kamal money to make more flops, it’s most probably because some rich fellas know that money isn’t what it’s all about in the end. Ever consider that? No.. of course not.

Hawkeye said...

makkale,

danks for the comments. i wish i could reply to all of you. but 106 comments is just too much. etho ellarum engayo nalla iruntha seridhaan.

Anonymous said...

For those who feel that Kamal’s 10 characters are a few too many, I want to ask what difference does it make to you if those miniscule characters were played by some God-knows-who actors? On the contrary, I think Kamal did full justice to those characters like nobody could. I know that he would started off with making the movie knowing the fact that he needs to play 10 avtaars no matter what (as 9 is the max thats done till now), but why the heck he shouldn’t even if some of them are insignificant compared to the 4 main ones?

To borrow from an interesting comment by another fan…

FAQs on Dasavatharam
Some guys have claimed they haven’t understood chaos theory which plays such an important part in the film. As a physics student, I’ve decided to explain it a bit so that people can appreciate the brilliance of the film.
What is Chaos?

Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible. Like for example, if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on. However, in a chaotic system, this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time. Weather, for example, is a chaotic system. No matter how good your instruments are, you simply cannot predict the weather with 100 per cent accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it.
What is the Butterfly Effect?

It is the most important component of a chaotic system. Basically, small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible. If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa, it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD.) A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan, where Vikram’s sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.
OK, how does Dasa incorporate it?
In essence, Dasa talks about eight characters who are inconsequential as such, but are integrated in a larger picture. Without Bush, the plane would have been called back. Without Shinghen, Govind would be dead. Without the tsunami, the world would have been destroyed. Even Krishnaveni (the old woman) plays a very important role. If she had not put the vial in the idol, maybe Govind would have recovered it then and there and a powerful weapon would have been unleashed. The very fact that it went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny. Without Kaifulllah Khan, Govind would have never escaped… the list simply goes on.
OK, so does the film talk about theism or atheism?

Neither. It talks about how humans drive the destiny of the world.
The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconsequential event (the drowning of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped off the face of the earth.
Now tell me, does THIS movie lack a story? This movie has the most beautiful story ever attempted in Indian cinema. Unfortunately, Indian viewers and critics are obsessed with the “boy meets girl” and “revenge” themes, so they fail to see the story in this master piece.

Mahesh said...

I guess the anon who provided the 108th comment pasted the stupid forward going on about Dasavatharam. I agree the choatic system and how Dasa uses it is stupid. Stupid stupid stupid to the core. Only idiots who have no brains will buy it.

Now this post is a compendium on everything related to the movie.

anita said...

Hello Mahesh,

Everyone has got their own opinion. You should respect others and comment in a civilized manner

shiv said...

dasa has some hi-concept thoughts in its story, but what matters is the screenplay and how those thoughts are translated into the 3 hr film.

When we talk about 'story' we mean screenplay and not the overall concept.

if Kamal had made the screenplay good enuf for most of us to understand the significance of each of the characters, and how the seemingly chaotic circumstances saved the world, it would have been a masterpiece.

u dont get points for studying hard all night. u get it for studying hard all night AND going to the exam and cracking it!

cheers,
-Shiv

Venki said...

well shiv... thats our problem, isn't it... we think success is measured only in terms of cracking exams...
we don't try to even think about the fact that exams are just measurement tools and not the end result... and we focus on cracking the exams rather than deriving the actual content by working for the knowledge which would help us grow... we are just machines that churn out marks...

I mean this in the exact sense as well as in this context..

Kartikey said...

well, i have not seen this film.
As a reader, i must say that there is not a single point that is noteworthy.

Who cares if an actor is playing 10 roles or forty one? And what's wrong if an actor wants to showcase his talents in any way possible?

The idea should be to see if he has succeeded in whatever he wanted to show/do/portray.

I have seen some movies of this actor and he is magnificent. He is so good an actor!
There are so many unbearable films being made. Why don't the reviewers attack them and write about them?

Saraks said...

Hawkeye,

My condolences man. Either you should've said "Oru thadava paakalam" like the Dasa-apologists do, or say that the kamal is Hindu hater, overrated, pseudo-intellectual like the Kamal haters. Not belonging to any of these camps should suck.

I was told to cut down my Englees film viewing, that it has marred by capability to appreciate Tamil movies. May be you can try the same.

Anonymous said...

are u retard?the one who posted this review! omg! i guess u don know even remotely about something called the "butterfly effect" and "the chaos theory" around which the movie hinges on!! n u call kamal an egoist while u swallowed up with ur own ego cant bother to even research properly before panning a movie!!!bigot!

Mahesh said...

Anita,

I love you. marry me no. please.

Anita said...

Mahesh,

Resume pls

Anonymous said...

anita....ha ha ha...gud one :D

Madiator said...

Ah! Many a times I had wanted to walk away from the theater! What a movie! I hadn't expected this from Dr. Kamal Hassan. And Asin's character was very very irritating. What a dumb girl!!

Ameer said...

hey whoever the stupid fool made the comment above, what were you expecing from a RaviKumar direction, a movie like Nayagan? well either you 3rd grader who couldnt understand the story or you are one of the fools carrying bad reviews of the movie, well I am from Sri Lanka and the response for the movie is awesome. If this movie flops in India I will know Sri Lankans have better tastes than Indians and as long as jerks like you comment on movies we can see more Arasangams and kuruvis coming, stupid fool grow up and then comment. Who in the world told you can comment this is what happens when 3rd graders start commenting. Go drink you milk and sleep at 9

Vignesh Ram said...

Find my review at
http://vigneshram.blogspot.com/2008/06/dasaavathaaram-review.html

Anonymous said...

some kamal fans appear offended by the review and comments. but the best they can say in retort is 'look there is so much effort and pain in doing 10 roles'.

if 'efforts and pain' of an actor alone should decide reviews, i guess there is so much effort and pain even in acting in pornos...

btw, k.s.ravikumar is a pretty good director. he made watchable movies even with 'stars' like saravanan.

Anonymous said...

This is a forwarded message -

FOR THOSE WHO LOVED DASAVATHARAM AND ALSO FOR THOSE WHO CUDNT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT!!!!!!!!!!

Too many doubts about correlation of the movie, Chaos theory and Butterfly Effect have come into Picture....!!!

The movie clearly states about Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect [Kamal says it in his Speech in the Movie ]

The concept of "CHAOS THEORY" and "BUTTERFLY EFFECT", by itself is a complex concept, which mainly highlights the happening of huge unimaginable things because of least probable things...!!!!

Dasa although deals with these concept, but does not necessarily confuse anyone with it,,,, As i said earlier, its mainly "YOU"... that plays a factor in how the movie gets along with "YOU".

You have got to be Case 1 or Case 2 as i have said earlier in this entry,,, No use being Half Baked.....!!!!

To just brief about these Concepts,

Q: What is Chaotic System ?
A: Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible.Like for example,if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on.However,in a chaotic system,this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time.
Weather for example is a chaotic system.No matter how good your instruments are,you simply cannot predict the weather with 100% accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it.

Q: What is the Butterfly Effect ?
A: It is the most important component of a chaotic system.Basically,small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible.
If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa,it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD).A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan,where Vikram's sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.


Q: OK, how does Dasa incorporate it ?
A: In essence,Dasa talks about 8 characters who are inconsequential as such,but are integrated in a larger picture.Without Bush,the plane would have been called back.Without Shinghen, Govind would be dead.Without the tsunami,the world would have been destroyed.Even Krishnaveni Patti plays a very important role.If she had not put the vial in the idol,maybe Govind would have recovered it then and there and a powerful weapon would have been unleashed.The very fact that it went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny.Without Kaifulla Khan, Govind would have never escaped;the list simply goes on.

Q:OK,so does the film talk about theism or atheism?
A:Neither.It talks about how humans drive the destiny of the world.

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The movie does Show " A Butterfly " flying accross the screen after the Tsunami Attcck, clearly indicating that the Tsunami is an Outcome of " The Butterfly effect ".


ALSOOOOOOO........


I said that the butterfly COULD cause a hurricane.That's a huge probability. Would be a negligible probability. NOT a huge one. if that were true, we would have cyclones on an hourly basis as butterflies keep flitting all over Africa and u don't have so many cyclones to account for a HUGE probability.
Chaos,relativity and quantum mechanics are so damn weird that you will think I am talking metaphysics and pseudoscience.

Like for example,according to quantum mechanics,there is a finite probability that you will fall right through a solid chair.And it is a PROBABILITY.
Even 10 to the power -26 is finite :-) .

But yes, Quantum Mechanics does allow for weird situations.


THE CONNECTION !!!!!


Guys check this link for a clear and complete explanation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

In the above links u can see that butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that may ultimately alter the path of a tornado or delay, accelerate or even prevent the occurrence of a tornado in a certain location..

So in dasavatharam that idol thrown into sea in 12th century is the cause for tsunami.... so everything is interlinked .The wiki entry also says that chaos could play an important role in plate techtonics. Which means even the 12th century incident is connected.

The 1st scene is perfectly connected to the climax, remember what Kamal says in the 1st scene, that he will not say "Om Nama Shivaya" , but Asin tells him to chant it , but still Kamal refuses , ( in this kamal in his story tries to tell that ) Nambi believes in his god more than anything, but Asin feels "Its ok if we change the god or chant other god's name, its life thats most important." Now if u see the climax its JUST OPPOSITE.... Kamal doesn't believe in god much and values lives of people the most.... but Asin deeply believes in god and that too this dialogue comes when both Asin and Kamal's hand is on the god which came from the sea , and it also means that they are getting united from the place they departed hundreds of years back ( Kamal and Asin).The connection between the 1st scene and the climax in the movie shows the generation circle combined with supernatural powers of GOD and destiny.....!!!


If you watch it closely u can also find another actor who has done double action other than Asin and Kamal.
Asin's father Sahasranamam [12th Century], in the beginning he says to Nambi "Panchatchira manthirathai sollitu vaango mappillai" and at the End [After tsunami] he says "Avar enna jathiyo inga vaanga paati ".
Another Eg. of Chaos Theory and circle of life.

JUST IMAGINE THE CHAOS THEORY IN A TAMIL FILM ??
WILL ANYONE HAVE THE GUTS TO HANDLE THIS KIND OF A SUBJECT IN A TAMIL FILM?

ONLY KAMAL HAS THE GUTS.... U ROCK!!


FURTHER-------------


Nambi explanation

Okay, this is slightly outside the chaotic system driving the film as a whole.From what I could gather he says that this story is about ideologies like God,the madness surrounding such ideologies and decides to tell the story of the Shaivite-Vaishnavite conflict to show how people go crazy in the name of God as an example.

As a loose end,it gets tied up in the end,when the Ranganathar idol is thrown out of the sea due to the tsunami which highlights the cyclic nature of life.Actually the Nambi character highlights both Chaos and Karma which I explained.That is the brilliance of this film,there is so much to see and understand.

Another explanation(and this is slightly far fetched--- as explained earlier) is that Govind is in fact the reincaranation of Nambi. As Nambi he couldn't protect God and died in the name of God.In order to fulfill his Karma,he is reincarnated as Govind Ramasamy who ultimately saves the world from destruction.The idol in the end somewhat hints to this theory; his story began with the idol and it ends with the idol.
As far as the connection with Nambi character and events in 12th Century goes...
The connection is based on the "Butterfly effect ".

When Govind and Andal goes to the bury the idol in the sands, Andal will stumble on a particular stone couple of times...This is the same stone as the one from 12th Century hen Kothai rips her Thaali and flings it at Kulothunga Chozan...it will end up hanging on the stone. So, the implied message here is Andal is Kothai reborn in the 21s century.
During the encounter with Santhana Bharathi in the sand quarry, it is repeat of the incident from 12th century. Instead of Kulothunga Chozhan, it is the Sand Mafia which tries to inflict damage on the land.
This movie is a brilliant juxtaposition of independent characters whose paths cross, if only briefly, which is stunning example of Chaos Theory.

The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconcsequential event (the drowing of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped out off the face of the earth.

But actually kamal has not left anything for our imagination... Explanation struck the right chord, Kamal does tell to Asin in a dialogue that idol which gets sunken back then gets struck between the tectonic plates under the sea and causes tsunami...
Many people missed this dialogue i guess. Kamal's accent was so very perfect Tamil, that many people missed it.... Being perfect Is a Problem by Itself !!! :)

Although the explanation is a least possible theory, that is what "Chaos Theory" And "Butterfly Effect" are all about.
Its not just the statue that caused the tsunami, but it just started a large chain of effects which kept multiplying exponentially and finally lead to it after 800 years....!!
Why just say this concept is perfectly illogical... it is possible... thats what i have been explaining all the while !!!

The story line is that things going wrong are made to be right which involves many people and countries knowingly or unknowingly.

Knowingly:

-Bush, Manmohan Singh, Govindh, Fletcher, Balaram Naidu, Mallika Sherawath.

Unknowingly:

-Nambi's drowning to death with the heavy statue causes simple changes to the seabed that causes a devastating tsunami 800 years later [Acc. to Chaos theor it is possible.... although it is least probable... It is possible.. so nothing TOTALLY WRONG About it ]
-Poovaragan(actually saved kamal unknowingly---when poovaragan enters kamal and asin were caught by those manal kollayargal.There poovaragan distracts the gang helping kamal to escape),
- Avatar Singh(gave way to Fletcher to escape in the airport unknowingly),
- Japanese(saved govind from fletcher,he knows he is saving but he doesnt know about the play and was there only for revenge),
- Kallifulla and family(saved govind unknowingly)........
-Vincent is a dalit leader of a lower caste( the so called ) but saved an Iyengar Girl ......and at the end becomes the son of the Iyengar Paati !!
- If Shingen Narahashi's sister was not killed, Fletcher could have killed govind and used the virus for wrong purpose..

This is based on Chaos Theory..!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree that the film was over hyped but I think they have done a decent job linking all the 10 characters. There are some abosolute crap movies coming out every year from Kollywood and have been big hits. Whats wrong with this movie? The main problem for the team has been the viewers. Its very difficult to make the movie for all kind of viewers and keeping in mind the monetary success, they have compromised on certain parts to make it more masala. By the way who has the guts in Tamilnadu to try something different?

Tejaswi said...

Dude,

I watched the movie and It aint that bad....dunno what Prompted you to give such a negative review.

-(and...I am not a kamal fan by any strech of imagination)

Saro said...

You could have showed more discretion in your review. The movie was a nice timepass for me.
People dont go to a movie for enlightment, knowledge stuff... Movies are only for some fair entertainment.
I too knew about chaos theory., but when you watch a movie, you better forget what you know and go by what the film says and see whether it is consistent within the film.
If you set yourself to find logical flaws in a movie then you can tear apart the logical base of any sci-fi hollywood movie.
Ofcourse there are a few irresistible scenes in the movie (the medical miracle at the end..for ex). Reviews are good only when it is written with a balanced mind., pinpointing the mistakes and appreciating the niceties. If it is not, the reviewer's words lose their value in course of time.
If this was hollywood movie and other than the main protagonist, all roles were done by different people, consciously ask yourself whether you'll still be complaining like this

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched Dasavatharam yet but pretty much read all the reviews and comments on the Net. I admit, I never read two very different versions of reviews for a single movie ever. People whoever written good about the movie are talking more about Kamal and whoever written bad about the movie are talking more about the Movie itself. For me, a movie should have a good Story, Screen Play and Direction, for example Mozhi is a movie which has these characters and it was a hit movie not because it had Rajini/Kamal or whoever it may be. Now, for those who talk about dedication and hard work, I would like to remind them that making a movie requires lot of dedication and hard work and I don't want to praise a movie just because kamal has put lot of hard work (just for Makeup). I am not sure whether this movie review will be the same if it was acted by Vijay/Ajith.

Anonymous said...

dasavatharam.........the film would have definitely done well without kamal hassan in 10 different roles.....

media....people....distributors have created hype only to fail the viewers..

the beginning is rock solid with marvelous showcase of graphics and background with a meaningless 1st avater..

Next the present with the hero finding the global weapon and the vilian chasing the hero to india ...bla..bla.
rest is histroy..nothing to say....

OBgirl said...

I feel really sad that you didn't get this movie at all. I won't say it's a masterpiece, rare gem etc etc bcos I'm not qualified enuf to give certificate like that. But I'm a writer and I know the power of story treatment... I LOVED the way Kamal has told the story and I WILL say that I enjoyed every minute of it.

BOTTOMLINE: It was the best 3 hours I spent this year and I really couldn't find any fault with Dasa (except for Asin's screeching in the 2nd half). Even my parents who are die-hard Rajini fans (and who hate to appreciate Kamal) enjoyed DASAVATARAM. And that's saying a lot.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but it's a pity that you didn't get to feel the elation of watching a different movie made by a special actor in this part of the world.

mathangi said...

Nobody expects a classic from Rajini/Vijay or an Ajith movie. But with Kamal, after all these inflated hype , mega budget and delay of almost 2 years, it is quite natural for movie lovers to expect a soul stirrer. What we have got is another garam masala like "Sakalakala vallavan" with KSR at the helm istead of SPM. For the front benchers, Kamal has gimmicks of 10 avatars, CGI , Mallika dance and for the educated he gives the pseudo intellectual mumbo jumbo of butterfly effect, chaos theory [courtesy Sujatha?]o. Any event lacking cogency for that matter can pass off as butterfly effect. Why only 12th century Ramanuja nambi? Any incident in Bay of Bengal, say even that Kamal and his sweetheart dying in the sea of Bay of Bengal in "Marocharithra" could have replaced the 12th century incident , hinting that their vengeful "athmas" could have caused tectonic disturbances . enna vena sollalaame ippidi.
Even in the main chase plot, Kamal could have been bold enough to chop off heroine's character. If I were Govind dwamy, I would have simply snatched the perumaL from her and pushed the pest from the moving train and rushed to the beaches to drown he perumaL. After all, oru uyir pona paravallai oru oorai kaapatharthukku. Many unwanted Kamals like the khan, singh, dalit , japanese were redundant , testing the patience. It would have been interesting if Kamal spent some of his intelligence in making the CBI director Balaram intercept Fletcher and put an end to his evil design instead of the other vazha vazha kozha kozhas.
- Mathangi

Pran said...

This film was a disaster in my opinion. I don't find any of the positive reviews addressing what most of the negative reviews have criticized as flaws in the film.

Srinivas said...

Too much hype.Can see once but that too need so much of patience. One thing that I hated most was unnessary and useless dialoges like hiroshima and pearl harbor .. Completely stupid. Yuck ! Enna kodumai saravanan!

If chaos theory holds good ,i lost $30 because nambi was tied and thrown into the sea.:)

For all those who are supporting everything on the movie:-
india-pakkathulae kadlulae oru old history raja nambi yae katti thookkipotta , eppadi appa sumatra pakkathulae fault line develop aavum ?

One thing i dont understand till date is why Manorama came out and cried after seeing the preview show ???

BullsEye said...

Kamal was great in the past. But now he is one of the worst actors in Indian Cinema.

People rate the movie good if their favorite actor is in it.

You need to learn how to judge a movie. It doesnt matter who is acting in it. I watched the movie and really have to say that "NOT GOOD". For me it doesnt matter whether Kamal is playing 10 or 1 role, movie should be watchable.

srinath said...

i feel the movie was too fast for any of you to understand. sorry dick-heads.
fyi, its not a commercial movie. Its a classy screenplay with commercial elements thats all. To me, each and every scene made sense.
Sorry fellows, but the fact is, you are all too slow for this world

S m i t h a said...

i thought the movie did justice to chaos theory with screenplay and story. albeit direction, continuity, CGI and rigid makeup of some characters were aweful.
the recurring theme of freewill, destiny, fate and god were truly genius. and the fact that a greater story emerges when all the characters are put together in a tight screenplay is awesome.
http://pichuva.blogspot.com/2008/04/chaos-theory.html

Anonymous said...

Well there was so much of mixed emotions generated by this movie.Kamal is a visionary,yes.But overall i think the viewers were not very satisfied.As for the make-up,well it could have been a hell lot better,but if 1 of the best make up artist from Hollywood,who worked on movies like MASK,STAR-TREK,RAMBO etc,couldn't do it-THEN WHO CAN!...if all u movie maniacs havent noticed,they cant make Tom cruise look like Brad Pitt,or the other way aROUND,OR BOTH OF THEM LOOK LIKE BUSH yet,perfectly.But i applaud to his efforts,his motivation and vision in educating his country,by choosing a very interesting,yet complicating But very important topic,full of values,and last but not least by him introducing A very VERY vERY FRESHHHH story in the Kollywood industry by far,cos nowadays every movie some how has the same blooody story-line and ending.that goes to SIVAJI too..played out story...CHEERS TO DASA

Anonymous said...

I am also a big Kamal fan. Keep praising him sitting in Canada. But this movie was senseless crap.

How can someone in this age of make-up and Computer Graphics make such shit and expect the public to swallow it up faithfully? Simply what were these idiots thinking? Couldn't bear to watch the characters. Torture. So many of the Avatharams were totally unnecessary and don't fit in.

Mindless and senseless crap da. OMG. I would like to believe this is purely released for the illiterates in Tamil Nadu who will accept it gratefully as a Blessing from the Gods or some shit.

F***ing piece of crap. Thinking of the quality of makeup and Graphics in Hollywood makes this this film stand out more in the negative shade.

And the budget? 30 million?? Are these people nuts? Are they on drugs?

Why can't these idiots use the money to help the poor in Tamil Nadu?

Kartikey said...

I mean no offense at all.
But what are you guys typing out?
I had written earlier about not seeing the film. I have now.
It's less important how I feel abt the film... but you are writing about make-up and CGI as if you are experts in these areas.

The anonymous person above has mentioned about the make up quality in this age and why money cannot be distributed to the poor or something...
And the reviewer has written almost everything but the review.
No lecture here, but kindly find out what make up is and if 60+ crores is a big budget to include the best CGI effects.
Even better try to discover where the message/idea/crux of the movie succeeded and failed

Ram said...

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Features/Special_Pages/Business_of_Bollywood/Dasavatharam_Indias_most_ambitious_film_to_date/articleshow/msid-3173741,curpg-1.cms

hahaha. egomaniac's reaping in crores!

if this movie is crap, you have no idea what movies are. This is a super entertainer with a cracker of a screenplay. but, as long as your moodakkaN is wide open, you cannot enjoy the movie. watch it in a better theatre next time to appreciate the graphics, and keep in mind that it took peanuts in comparison to some of the hi-fi Hollywood movies that you are so used to. there is no comedy? haha. yeah, right! just stick to your rhetorics of how he misses Crazy Mohan and Sujatha. haha. man, this is the most jealous review of the movie that i have read...all written simply because he preaches his atheistic views through his movies? lol.

Ram said...

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Features/Special
_Pages/Business_of_Bollywood/Dasavatharam_Indias_
most_ambitious_film_to_date/articleshow/
msid-3173741,curpg-1.cms

YegnaNarayanan said...

I think the movie is made well - the review was done on first viewing (which is impossible for any one) so it is first impression rather than review + the reivewer is so much iyengar mama, he cannot accept perumal dwesham :-)

YegnaNarayanan said...

I think the movie is made well - the review was done on first viewing (which is impossible for any one) so it is first impression rather than review + the reivewer is so much iyengar mama, he cannot accept perumal dwesham :-)

Aravindh said...

Kazhugu Kanna,

READ THE WHOLE POST DUDE.

Now words to say.
Everbody have already praised you & some shits have spit on you.

Dont care about the spits,
Those are plain old stupid Kamal fans.

They are blinded by him.

On the whole,
YOUR POST ROCK

Subrahmanian said...

For the one's who criticize Kamal for Dasavathaaram.

One thing we had noticed is why people didn't get the real subtext and reason for the various roles and hence the title.

If you knew the real dasavatharams of Lord Vishnu and their characters you can appreciate the script more.

Let me explain, starting with the best adapted role:

1. Krishna avatar - Vincent Poovaraghavan Lord krishna is actually a dalit, he is dark-skinned [shyamalam]. He saved draupadi when she was being violated and he was the actual diplomat in mahabharatham. Lord krishna dies of an arrow striking his lower leg. Now look at how vincent was introduced.. he appears when asin is about to be molested and he saves her like draupadi. Vincent is the dalit diplomat, fights for land issue [soil issue to be exact] and dies from the metal rod striking his leg. Oh even five of vincent's men are drugged at P. Vasu's.. sounds familiar???


2. Balarama avatar - Balarama naidu

This is an easy given. as the name suggests and the role personifies you can easily get it.

3. Mathsya avatar - Ranagaraja nambi
nambi is thrown into water in an act of trying to save lord from being thrown into sea, though vainly. what more clue do you want?

4. Varaha avatar - Krishnaveni paatti

During the mukunda song, krishnaveni paatti does varaha avatar in the shadow puppetry. The frame freezes on it for a second. there is the clue. Moreover, in varaha avatar lord actually hides earth so as to protect life forms. Here too krishnaveni hides the germs - life form inside the statue so as to protect.

5. Vamana avatar - Kalifulla khan

remember in vamana avatar, lord vishnu takes the vishvaroopa, that is the giant form! Hence the giant kalifulla here symbolises vamana avatar.

6. Parasurama avatar - Christian Fletcher Parasurama is actually on an angry killing spree and killed 21 generations of the particular kshatriya vamsa. Hence the real KILLER... Guess what thats what our Fletcher is! He comes around with the gun [modern upgrade for axe] and kills everyone around. I have to check if he kills 21 people though. :-D

7. Narasimha avatar - Shingen Narahashi

first of all the name itself is a play on the words singam [means lion in tamil] and narasimha [the avatar being symbolised]. Lord Narasimha manifests himelf to kill the bad guy and he also teaches prahaladha.

In the movie, he shows up to kill the killer fletcher! and is also a teacher.. Lord Narasimha had to kill the asura with bare hands and hence the martial arts exponent here.. get it?

8. Rama avatar - Avatar Singh

Lord Rama stands for the one man one woman maxim, kind of symbolising true love.. Here Avatar portrays that spirit by saying that he loves his woman more than anything and wants to live for her.

9. Kalki avatar - Govindaraj Ramasamy

As you know, the hero in kaliyug can be none other than the Kalki avatar!!!

10. Koorma avatar - Bush

This is the most loose adaptation I couldn't clearly comprehend. But if you look at the real koorma avatar, the lord is the turtle/tortoise that helps in stirring the ksheera sagara and bringing out the amruth.

This essentially creates war among the devas and asuras. Similarly today Bush facilitates war between you know whom... May be Kamal also indicates that this avatar is a bit dumb like the tortoise...

Anonymous said...

The movie was an entertainment, not so good. Why take theism as an issue, when thr r lot othr social issues that can
be mended with the influence of media??? and i firmly object the views of dr.kamal hasan, about the brahmin
community.(With reference to the death scene of vincent poovaragan) Our aacharyan RAMANUJAR himself wanted
the people of all castes to know the ASHTAKSHARAM and shouted it out himself.... this being the attitude of
vaishnavites, we had been wrongly trademarked to have discriminated the people of othr castes, by the action of
certain silly brahmins. And making fun of one of our madaadipadi's title name(azhagiya singar), is irritating.
There are numerous nouns which sound funny to us, but have a good meaning in some othr language. why mock at
them? that was an awful joke for which people din't even laugh at. It was like making some purposeful disregard.
So, i suggest the actor-script writer to use his talents in some productive ways to influence public for good.

Anonymous said...

Looks like people who are making non-sense comments about DASAVADARAM are either Rajini fans or not able to digest the success of DASAVADARAM in Box office.

If you guys do not know how to appreciate movies like DASAVADARAM, Please keep all the holes in your body shut and stop watching movies.

Bohemain Bonkers said...

Kamal has not aimed for perfection, and we do not want perfection. The 1st half is gripping like a hollywood flick and 2nd half gives a delightfully local flavor to the movie. I simply loved the movie. I feel so proud and glad to be a tamilian born in this age, that i could watch and enjoy this movie. I'm indifferent to hero worship, but after this movie, i feel kamal is truly a legend.

maduraiveeran said...

This is the most comments I have seen for any post. Suggests how much hype this movie was churning out. I didnt like the movie either, I couldn't even review it, I just ended up writing a comedy post called Dasavatharam part II. When you get time please read it - http://maduraiveeran.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/dasavatharam-part-ii/
I wont blame you if you cant read my post, 147 comments read panni mudikkirathukkulla kilinjirum.

Karthik said...

for all u ppl who do not like the movie ur 2-3 % sample rest of the ppl liked it and given dasa more than 150 crores in box office collection till date. so shut ur fricking a** and go and watch ambulimaama movies like sottaji..dasa is simply the best novie made till now given the opposition and the constraint faced by the movie. go to hell if u donot like the movie.u son of a *****

Anonymous said...

Dasavatharam is for sensible people...the rest can watch movies like Sivaji and Kuselan !!!

Anonymous said...

Its not as stupid as sivaji :)

vinay said...

I wud rather prefer a critic to a criticizer....

Anonymous said...

Well said Vijay

Anonymous said...

Hawkeye....you are a big disgrace to this nation.

BTW are you from Andhra ?

Ramya said...

Dasavatharam was depicted with marvellous storyline. I am the great fan of Kamal and i haven't expect such a talent from him in this movie. All reviwers please try to appreciate the hardwork done by kamal. Hats off kamal.

Madrasi Mama said...

This is a movie to definitely go and watch - because it is so funny and so bad. Its one of the best comedies I have seen in a long time because it does not even intend to be funny. The logical inconsistencies, horrendous acting from most everyone, the lame "jokes", the pathetic rendering of what COULD HAVE been a fantastic story and finally, the HORRENDOUS TERRIBLE ABYSMAL makeup... where can you get such a combo? Go watch it. This reviewer is wrong - he has been too kind to this movie

Deepak said...

Reject?? Padatha yaarum reject pannala pola theriyudhu? Dasavatharam seems to be running pretty well everywhere. Collection > 150 crores in 30 days & > 200 crores in 40 days...Meyyaluma?

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Kamal fan said...

Just saw Dasavatharam In US.

Ok..

The first 10 minutes was brilliant, I almost wish the whole movie was about the 12th century struggle, that would have been cool.

My honest Opinion: I'm a number 1 kamal fan from the 80s....

The film seems disjointed, complicated, and the story is not followable.

The number 1 reason Rajini wins all the time:: His stories are plain, it can be understood by the begger or the aristrocrate.

Dasavatharam is somewhere in the middle of an Art Film and a wanna be action thriller. It is quite common knowledge that Kamal literally copies english movies scene by scene (I really don't know why, the man is so talented)..
Ex:
Thenali = What about bob?
Panchathanthiram = some low budget english movie that ran for 2 weeks.

My point is that: I think he is watching English movies but doesn't know how to separate the crap from the box office hits.
Hence forth, Dasavatharam is an attempt to keep the viewer at the edge of his seat, but the story is so complicated that half way through the movie you don't know what the hell is going on.

The story is as complicated as Madana, Michael Kamarajan or Panchathanthiram, or Kadthala Kadthala.

Most people will not understand this movie the first time and moreover, people don't have the time or the patience to see movies over and over again to understand the true meaning.

Some roles of Kamal does not make sense or bears no reason why that role is important in the film.
The singh role, Japanese role, and the 7 foot man role is kinda unneeded. It doesn't add to the story, it merely distracts the viewer or for god sakes the Bush role!!

Some roles were billiant like Chris Fletcher.

In conclusion, Dasavatharam would have made a bigger impact if the story was less complicated and straight forward.

Kamal is perhaps an atheist but Iyengar Brahmin... but he makes every effort in this movie to disgrace or put down God you can think of. It is quite ludicris because it is obvious that he is going out of the way and making the story crazy just to prove his point.

Similar to the inane concept in the movie Mahanathi, when the complete bad guy who is PIMP is named Thrivagadam. Which is the name of the highest god there is!! This is his sarcastic way of putting down god.

Finally, the only, the only,, the only thing that holds this movie together, that is, the glue is Asin's cute actions and real screen play. Her acting is the only thing that anchors this movie to the ground. And I'm not just saying that because she is the number 1 hottest, sexiest, talented actor in India. Ashwaria Rai.. please move over!!!

Mahesh said...

Oh my God....what do some people like in this movie?, it is such a badly made one. You can be a Kamal fan but surely by appreciating bullshit you are encouraging him to do more of such self conceited nonsense..compare this to micheal madana kama-rajan, what a far cry.

Shankar said...

I agree with the author. The movie sucked big time. I guess Kamal is vying with Rajni after Shivaji as to who could produce a crappier movie on a bigger budget.

The make up job was horrible. Most of his characters seemed like bad Halloween masks. George Bush seemed to have really big bushes for eyebrows. But he was the only redeeming comedy act (though sadly it had to be in English).

Some of the stuff portrayed was a bit hard to digest, like viewing viruses through binoculars from dozens of feet away, or high speed head-on collisions that don't even cause a scratch on the vehicles' occupants.

The first avatar (the historic stuff) seemed a bit better than what what was to follow.

Jeez, how I miss Kamal movies with a simple, clean storyline like Anbe Sivam..

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't diss the movie altogether like some peeps out here, but it wasn't all that great either. Plus points I'd say are the concept of having the 10 avatars being involved one way or the other to save the planet, the exploration of the butterfly effect, Asin and Kamal coming back after a full circle back to where they started 800 years ago (same location, same statue, same arguments about god, just that it was a reversal of roles this time), and the way certain roles were etched was impressive..notably Fletcher, Poovaraghan. The downside of it all was the overall execution..the movie lagged miserably in many places, seemed disjointed at someplaces even. And Kamal tried to infuse too many things into a span of 3 hrs..u can either sit back, turn of the brain and take in all the masala, comedy, CGI etc without comprehending jack, or actually try to pick out every single subtle detail essential to the plot and what Kamal wants to show us and miss out on the effects..it's a bitch trying to appreciate every aspect of the movie though. But overall I'd say it was a good attempt by Kamal and he's getting better. Hope he keeps on improving and eventually we'd get something on par with or even better than what Hollywood turns out these days. This film has definitely relegated the over-rated Bollywood to second place in India. SRK could take a cue or two frm Kamal and dispense with the usual puppy-teary-eyed routine and a dozen 10 min songs in his films.

Chris Johnson said...

Dear everyone,
I just wanted to point out, for the record,that there is a difference between the Swami Govinda Ramanuja dasa in India and Govinda Ramanuja dasa in America. They might have the same name and Religion, but,They are two totally different people.
I personally know the Govinda Ramanuja dasa in America and he is a non-political, highly Spiritual-Godly person. I have know the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa for a number of years, and he is a very sane, thoughtful, highly intellegent, loving, caring and Highly Godly person. Who has helped many people, wheither Spiritually-Religiously, financially or other-wise. He has many friends that would vouch for what I said. The only thing you can say about the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa, while he was on Wikipedia, he was try to stop the mis-information, dominance and cult slant that certain ISKCON/Hare Krishna editors have done on most of the Hindu related articles on Wikipedia, by defending his conserns and opposition with Shruti or the original scriptures of India; the four Vedas, the main Upanishads, the Laws of Manu, the Vedanta sutra…Which ISKCON does not follow and is critical of. For a time he was successful against their spreading of their cult ideas and fantasies on Wikipedia, but, retired from editoring amist the collective opposition of ISKCON editors and their supporters in marring any thing related to hindu articles with ISKCON cult ideas. Before becoming Hindu/Vaishnava, he practiced and studied Jewish Kabbalah, Gnosticism,Buddhism and many other paths and Spiritual disciplines that helped him in his dharmic practices as a strict Vaishnava/Hindu now. As a friend of the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa, his knowledge and understanding of the Vedas and almost every thing dealing with Godly matters…is incredible! like I said, the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa is a caring, extraordinary, helpful, sane friend to all and Non-political and Very Godly and Spiritual. I hope that this clears up any confusion in this matter

Chris Johnson said...

Dear everyone,
I just wanted to point out, for the record,that there is a difference between the Swami Govinda Ramanuja dasa in India and Govinda Ramanuja dasa in America. They might have the same name and Religion, but,They are two totally different people.
I personally know the Govinda Ramanuja dasa in America and he is a non-political, highly Spiritual-Godly person. I have know the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa for a number of years, and he is a very sane, thoughtful, highly intellegent, loving, caring and Highly Godly person. Who has helped many people, wheither Spiritually-Religiously, financially or other-wise. He has many friends that would vouch for what I said. The only thing you can say about the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa, while he was on Wikipedia, he was try to stop the mis-information, dominance and cult slant that certain ISKCON/Hare Krishna editors have done on most of the Hindu related articles on Wikipedia, by defending his conserns and opposition with Shruti or the original scriptures of India; the four Vedas, the main Upanishads, the Laws of Manu, the Vedanta sutra…Which ISKCON does not follow and is critical of. For a time he was successful against their spreading of their cult ideas and fantasies on Wikipedia, but, retired from editoring amist the collective opposition of ISKCON editors and their supporters in marring any thing related to hindu articles with ISKCON cult ideas. Before becoming Hindu/Vaishnava, he practiced and studied Jewish Kabbalah, Gnosticism,Buddhism and many other paths and Spiritual disciplines that helped him in his dharmic practices as a strict Vaishnava/Hindu now. As a friend of the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa, his knowledge and understanding of the Vedas and almost every thing dealing with Godly matters…is incredible! like I said, the american Govinda Ramanuja dasa is a caring, extraordinary, helpful, sane friend to all and Non-political and Very Godly and Spiritual. I hope that this clears up any confusion in this matter

Mr.Ramesh said...

A movie has to be seen in context...if you can say indianajones is classy..then dasa too will be one to be called. man dont see toomuch into the film, if english films how ever stupid is termed good, then Dasa is always even better. The producer is happy on his ROI, so why bother folks?

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Clarret said...

Thank you so much. I posted a comment on a blog expressing my disappointment at the Hindi version of the film, and got some lewd "north Indians are idiots" remarks in reply. It is heartening to see a lot of people down south see more sense than that blogger.

Well, just for your info, many of the silly characters in the movie are made worse by dubbing them with ridiculous north indian accents. Naidu is a bengali; still acceptable. But ppl at the Srirangapuram Math speaking Bhojpuri??? And Vincent is first Marathi, and switches to a southern accent later. Won't even go into other aspects which you've so aptly described.

But all those who think that ppl criticising the movie have failed to understand the butterfly effect or chaos theory - wake up! That is the intelligent premise the film starts from, but falls on its face because of terrible execution.

And lastly, THIS CONCEPT IS NOT NEW. Sanjeev Kumar played 9 roles in Naya Din Nayi Raat, based on the Navarasa concept. So by upgrading to 10 you're not exacty pioneering anything, Mr Kamal Hassan. There goes the only USP of this ridiculously juvenille venture. Maybe you should have tried marketing it as a children's film, kids would love all the fake Kamal Hassans floating about in a meaningless story.

Deepti Chaudhari

Badri said...

you seem to be a north indian bigot...sanjeev kumar was no pioneer...sivaji did 9 roles first...sanjeev kumar just copied this movie.....dasavatharam was a reasonable movie and technically it is definitely a pioneer.....have you seen special effects on that scale before in indian movies...Its not all that bad compared to the nonsense that regularly comes out of your bollywood...