Wednesday, February 18, 2009

Slumdog Recursion

Story of a begging-mafia that made a lot of money by having young children enact "poverty porn" to shock the white man - was made into a movie that pretty much did the same thing.

30 comments:

Gradwolf said...

why the sudden gaandu?

deitaDi said...

Awesome! Loved it. Very well put!

Arun Sundar said...

One with Surdas' poem and the other with Rahman's song. Good thinking :)

siva said...

have u seen naan kadavul? slumdog is a picnic by comparison

Nivedita said...

wah! you said it..

Murali said...

naan kadavul beats the crap out of any slum-naai millionaire...

Slumdog hater said...

Sigh, finally. Someone who hates slumdog as much as I do.

I want to hang myself if that movie wins an Oscar for best picture. Please.

I can't believe the same guy made this and Trainspotting. Age is messing with Boyle.

Extra-Ordinarily Ordinary said...

The movie was/is the best movie made in India last year - compared to other movies. But that definitely does not qualify for an Oscar.

But these pseudo patriotic dogs in India who claim every loophole to get tax refund, see Sun Tv on election day without voting, those who throw the chewing gum wrapper on the street etc should not talk about how India is portrayed.

ashok said...

yup.... :(

Anonymous said...

I don't agree with your view Hawkeye.

Siva,/Murali
So Naan Kadavul is local Poverty Porn? Even worse?

Sarang-

Angel's Flight said...

Hell ya!

chokkathangam said...

terse, taut, tight, tucker, true, tata

siva said...

sarang,
I don't think slumdog was poverty porn.it was a masala movie and was entertaining.the fact that it became so popular is triggering extreme reactions.As for naan kadavul, it was a deeply disturbing movie.i don't know if there is any "proper" way to show poverty.it is a tricky subject.

-Siva

I said...

There is nothing "deserving" about Oscars. They are given to the most pro-homosexual, pro-islam and pro-democrat of movies. Ellam eye waas to further Hollywood's political agenda.

Kokki Kumarru said...

thats shockingly true.. the movie carried a lot of melodramatic scenes similar to the 80s hindi movies like children getting separated in trains.. And these white men which includes the director as well cant think beyond the taj mahal and mumbai..

The funny part is that the other movies like reader, button and even milk which got nominated are much better than slumdog!! And our guys out there in bollywood(wat a dumb name) are really proud of it..

Kokki Kumarru said...

i got to watch naan kadavul.. i respect bala a lot.. I think he is the only man who believes in reality movies apart frm ratnam

Venkiraja said...

First off, atleast respect the fact that Indians (who otherwise wouldn't get any international acclaim) recieve some appreciation worldwide. I agree that it is quite an average movie and stuff. My woes are that media folk who say that this isn't the realistic portrayal of India aren't people who project India in its true sense. Plus IMHO, slumdog is used as a publicity tool by everyone including Hawkeye.

Hawkeye said...

Again the pre-oscr hype for this average movie.

deitaDa,

:-) thanks.

Arun,

:-) although as a die hrd ARR fan I do hope he wins the oscar.

siva, Murali

not a fan of bala but will watch it.


Nivedita,

:-)


slumdog hater,

me too cant believe this is from a trainspotting person.


LKS,

/* But these pseudo patriotic dogs in India who claim every loophole to get tax refund, see Sun Tv on election day without voting, those who throw the chewing gum wrapper on the street etc should not talk about how India is portrayed. */

"qualification" is a dicey word. there can be arguments an never ending counter arguments.

ashok,

:-)

sarang,

ok.


angel's flight, chokkathangam,

:-)


I,

yes hollywood has an agenda but they've generally given to some good movies.

kokki,

SM is cliche. But bala Vs reality thing - i am not so sure. what is reality?

Anonymous said...

Hawk
You haven't lived in Bombay(Sorry Mumbai), and i have , and i think its a very close representation of the slums in B'Bay at least. Its a very dark look, but its true. And remember, the movie and the director does not portray this as present day India as much, In fact in a scene the elder brother sits on top of a construction building and tells his brother about how he can't believe its the same place where the slums were a decade back.
So there is some reality to it. It was a presented in a very simple way. Maybe complicated direction would have made you like it?
Benjamin button sucked, Milk was good(just good), Frost/nixon was over dramatic. and i don't think there was anything better than SDM this year. Maybe , Dark Knight, for us superhero fans.
Overall, an average year for Oscars, in a way thankfully for SDM.
present day India or B'bay is not the backdrop of the movie. So, relax :)
Its anyway a break from India's favorite 'serious' subject of all 'serious' directors (lead by mr Mani Ratnam, Govind Nihalani).
Terrorism with religious conflict as a backdrop!

J

Hawkeye said...

/* Terrorism with religious conflict as a backdrop */

there was nothing in SM with this theme?

/* You haven't lived in Bombay(Sorry Mumbai), and i have , and i think its a very close representation of the slums in B'Bay at least. */

And Danny Boyle has lived in bombay slums? what particular aspect was the "close representation" that danny boyle saw which I could not see?

Anonymous said...

And Danny Boyle has lived in bombay slums? what particular aspect was the "close representation" that danny boyle saw which I could not see?

Thank god that Steven Spielberg did see those Dinosaurs in real when he made Jurassic Park.
Jokes apart- He was only a director. Now if he was a writer, i may have had questions. but he is not, it was Vikas.
What aspect of the movie did u have a problem with? The slums and the begging? Why? You don't believe that the scenes of a beggar racket is real in Mumbai? Its still real, and it was more so back in the 80's and 90's. I don't think it was exagerrated. Danny Boyle never claimed to take a Film on India and show their rich heritage. That was never the theme!

Hawkeye said...

/*Thank god that Steven Spielberg did see those Dinosaurs in real when he made Jurassic Park. */

very good. I didn't bring up this topic. you did. so now that you see the idiocy behind bringing up "qualification" topics like "i lived in mumbai so i know its real" etc. Don't bring it up anymore. just say SM is as fantasy based as Jurrasic park and keep quiet.


i've already written a review for SM. no point in saying them again.

Anonymous said...

Why is it a fantasy dude? Its a story based on real life incidents. u think its exaggeration. i don't, and thats why u have the beef, and thats why u are angry. because u r wrong! I agree, i haven't lived in the slums. But i have passed thru them. Seen the kids there. And some of the scenes come pretty close to what it really is.
There are some things u don't know and can't relate to. Just like I do. So do what i do then, keep it zipped.
Sorry..u raised the tone!

Hawkeye said...

/* u think its exaggeration */

never said so.

/* i haven't lived in the slums. But i have passed thru them. Seen the kids there. And some of the scenes come pretty close to what it really is. */

LOL. the depth of information you have by "passng through" is just awesome. Hope danny boyle had the same depth.

i think the main reason why i dislike the movie is because of people like you. who go around trumpeting that this is 'rea' and then you gain some self-trumpet by claiming you have lived close by and seen the 'real'.

Anonymous said...

I dont think so. I think its ur ego. U are unable to accept that a White man made a movie portraying the poverty in India. He did his research.And your argument is how did Danny Boyle know this is how it is in the Slums. And so far i have been unable to make you understand that part. One last time, let me try. So you think Mani Ratnam actually was in Kashmir and experienced terrorism first hand before he made roja, or was in the center of the communal riots in B'bay before he made B'bay?
If those movies are fantasies, SDM definitely is.
I do maintain my stance, SDM is not an extraordinary movie by any means. It was the 'best' among the average movies this year. it was'nt the best of rahman either.
But i am unable to accept your reasoning on why u disliked SDM.

NamelessNerd said...

I liked your newer post on the oscars. could not leave a comment there for some reason. You said it right..I however humbly disagree with slumdog as a concept. As a movie, it was cinematic. But it indeed woke people up in India to a reality that they see everyday but pretend to be blind to. Kannathil for example was a much better movie and had way better music. But such is life. I am very happy for Rahman..altho him not being mentioned as an Indian composer but a Bollywood composer hurts.

revathi said...

Most people are able to survive in the slums because of the incredible solidarity the poor show vis a vis each other given their living conditions. Even stray dogs get adopted and not allowed to starve. A little bit of that solidarity wouldnt have been out of place in the film- felt that it lacked positive characters

Kokki Kumarru said...

mr hawkeye,

i dont know wat reality is but i think movies which are made based on characters we see in real life comes close..
100+ cast from naan kadavul are physically challenged people in real life..

the aghoris are real as well..

rt said...

thr are better indian movies that depict poverty/slums in more realistic way. dunno how indians suddenly seem to "wake up" to reality by this mediocre movie.

Anonymous said...

The BS continues...

http://sify.com/movies/bollywood/fullstory.php?id=14863747