Sunday, May 06, 2012

Surya

Vijay TV has begun to telecast NVOK in US starting this weekend. My first thought on watching it was that - actor Surya stands the risk of over exposing himself in the public media space. I have seen his books in Landmark where he has written his childhood stories of struggle and other miscellaneous stories. He also used to write a weekly article in a leading Tamil magazine on his personal stories and flashback. NVOK again contains too many personal stories about him. I also saw a special program/talk given by Sivakumar where he too delves into details of Surya's childhood.

There is a tact which some very successful public figures use where they don't give-up a lot of information about them. There is a charm and mystery in not revealing too much about yourself. In essence leaving a lot to the public imagination and speculation. It is a timeless art used by people who understand the ebbs and flows of public life.  This builds up an aura for a person and given them control on how to develop and sustain the aura. Surprisingly, Rajnikanth, Ilayaraja, ARR and Manirathnam employ it very well. I say surprisingly because I perceive Tamil people as having a more than average weakness (assuming any kind of person has some weakness for this) for over-the-top'ness and a penchant for "i want to tell my emotional story". Surya has chosen for some reason to live a very open-to-public life. I cant see a long-term upside for this. Especially his 'novelty' value. After a point people will get used-to or even fed-up of his personal story, he may lose the charm of discovery, and people may move on to the next new thing.

Also, the build-up given for Surya in most Vijay TV shows he appears (especially in the past 2 years) cant be good for him. Cant help thinking someone is not in control of moderating their presence on TV.

26 comments:

The Raj said...

Surya and his annoying brother have already worn off their welcome long back as far as Iam concerned. Add their penchant to appear in every stupid ad which Kamal/Rajni never did(this deserves a special mention, how they carefully built an aura by limiting their appearances in TV besides other mediums) .
But then overexposure doesnt seem to have affected SRK or Big B much. So maybe Surya will find a way to survive

The Raj said...

and what was this childhood struggle about? He was the son of a successful cine star after all, so it couldnt have been financial.
Is he trying to falsely build a sympathy factor around him? For a while Vikram was talkabout his 10-year struggle before Sethu and Ajith always talsk about lack of godfather for him in the industry. I am not sure if Surya is writing a fabricated backstory to boost his image

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I said...

Surya is not spontaneous and looks very uncomfortable when the contestants say something the script did not anticipate. Repeats what they say ("Edho irukeenga..") and not sure how to react on his own.

He does not detach himself from the contestants' emotional and financial woes, and gets too involved. For someone who watches TV after a long day, poverty pornography can be exhausting.

"Appa solluvaru..", "aaya solluvaanga.."'nu arivurai edutthu udaran.

Another person who can't stop talking about himself is the school public-speaker-turned president.

Btw when did Rajini become Tamil? Ippadi naamale edhahdu solrom. Apram "thalaivaer", "varungala mudhalvar"'nu cheri pasanga kural kudukaranga.

bits said...

Surya tries to ape his mentor Kamal and off late Kamal been very outspoken about his life. Not sure if Kamal did this in the 80s 90s. It's like almost everyone knows his life history.

How's the rating for this show now? I know that the rating for KBC plunged when SRK hosted and reason being SRK's over involvement with the contestants.

Over exposure might not be so bad in other instances but Surya should draw the line while hosting such shows.

I don't know how much this is relevant here but in the movie 50/50, the therapist says to Joseph Gordon that the therapy would fail if the patient knows what's going on in her life.

Raj,

I think the struggle has more to do with his interpersonal skills like being an introvert.

I,

LoL @ your last line!

SathyaRam said...

The Surya Sivakukmar Karthi family suffer from a disease that makes them believe and propogate that they are rombanall kudumbam. Every interview Surya says his father has brought him up well and vice versa with others

One of the good joke I heard about Surya family (romba nalla kudumbam).

Scene : Karthi marriage

Surya welcomes a guest,
Surya : Vanga sir Vanga Appa solirkaru kandipa sapptu ponomnu

Guest : Unga appa illada, enga appavum sonnaru sapptu dhan varnomnu.....

Hawk Eye said...

I disagree with some commentors on a few things. I think overall they lead a pretty decent lifestyle compared to others in their industry. They are erring on the side of cloyingly nice or being too nice. And that while isnt necessarily a deplorable thing - it just inhibits their career. Familiarity breeds contempt. Hence my observation.

I actually dont think Karthi is annoying at all. Siruthai was nonsense but it still seemed one-off. He does run risk of being stereo-typed. But I have to say I havent seen a actor with so much screen presence after Rajinikanth. And he combines certain traits of Parthiban and Sathyaraj in a very good way. The way the screen and theater lights up after he appears is quite interesting. Plus he is very natural and has a lot of flair. All the things I mentioned for Karthi - I feel Surya lacks. Surya is a method actor and isnt suitable for this short of a show.

Also - I dont think you need to be poor or rich to struggle. everybody bleeds. Poverty is one such struggle. Mental suffering can happen to anyone and it is as cruel as the next guy. Ambani could suffer more than you. So it isnt necessarily about money. And while i consider poverty based struggle to be hard journey, I dont necessarily value a poverty based struggle more than some other types of struggle.

I,

the poverty porn of Vijay TV deserves a separate post. They are worse than slumdog millionaire fans or Sachin when he says he hits cricket balls for the sake of his country.

Sridhar said...

I think the ability to be popular in Tamil cinema for decades will end with Kamal and Rajini. The younger guys will be happy with 5 to 10 years of success, I think. There's lot more competition, and good actors to go around these days.

So perhaps, Surya realizing that his days at the top are limited is maxing out all his opportunities for fame and money. Milk it as much as possible. I mean between them, the brothers have already earned enough to retire in luxury.

Anonymous said...

Point is, Surya is acting in this show too! He seems fake in speech delivery and the way he portrays himself and his family as the ideal family in Tamil Nadu!

I am a ComplexNumber said...

I agree with hawkeye on Karthi vs Surya.
Karthi is definitely a natural and has a huge screen presence. Even in 7am arivu, in spite of the massive script I wasnt awed at Surya either as bodhisatva or as circus character.

Surya shines when he underplays...the only movie(s) that I like his presence are Kakka Kakka and Aayutha ezhuthu.

I liked him in AE. Yes, he resembled a bit of Mouna ragam karthik in nadai udai paavanai. but still good.

SRK is natural (annoying now a days) and Amitabh bachchan is xtremely good...Surya wrong choice...More than anyone else Surya needs to guard his charisma...The only thing I hate about tamilnadu is the over-sentiment..So surya might luck out

I am a ComplexNumber said...

Contrast that to Karthi in AO or
Naan Mahaan Alla....super good..

I didnt like Paruthi veeran...
I remember reading a blog on Rapemani (priyamani) earlier...

I am a ComplexNumber said...

Contrast that to Karthi in AO or
Naan Mahaan Alla....super good..

I didnt like Paruthi veeran...
I remember reading a blog on Rapemani (priyamani) earlier...

Hawkeye, please write about Vivek's fall from Minnale to today....he has become the most annoying comedian in lines of Kanja karuppu, karunas etc

Anonymous said...

Just to add on Anonymous comment on Surya's fake delivery speech and the potrayal as an ideal family,I really hate Surya in that aspect.He is a talented actor without a doubt,but he really irritates offscreen especially in the interviews.'Being humble' and 'playing humble' are two different things.It looks like he needs to compliment/mention someone else in his each and every other interviews.On how this actor have done it to perfection and how that actor have got into the skin of the character etc.E.g,has anyone else seen Mohanlal's KNUCKLES act? Apparently,Surya has.And he DEFINITELY lacks screen presence.Funny thing is,I don't seem to have the such feelings towards Karthi.

On overexposure,seeing SRK is really nauseating.

KSOS said...

Surya is "fake" to the core when he tries to show some personality off-screen. He might be a good man, a talented one, hard working blah blah, but he doesn't have a charisma that can match his credentials. He can be classified as a "good but boring" man. Zero sense of humor, no spontaneity and absolutely no screen presence. "Kullan Surya ozhippavar sangam" on FB needs no efforts to ozhichify him.

Hawk Eye said...

yabba .. simple citicism to flat-out hatred is a slippery slope.

the post was about too-many appearances in TV for Surya and over exposure of his personal stories in public space. gives too many opportunities for people to notice his weakness.

he is more of an industrious/hard worker and has put himself in a show that requires spontaniety and flair. mismatch.

i wouldnt go as far as saying he is fake etc. i think his intonation and new style of speaking that he has adopted for this show is making him appear contrived.

Anonymous said...

I have at least 2 friends in the film industry (one appeared in GVM's movie along with Surya). According to them, Surya is a head weight guy and not like how he portrays himself in interviews. They never said this to me to put him down or anything. Just casual talks between friends.

This is his personality and I have no problem with that BUT the point is that, people feel he appears fake or whatever because he genuinely isn't the nice/humble guy! He's trying hard to impress but it's not working because that is not the real him. If this is not faking then what is this? Pretentious maybe?

You feel he isn't faking but others do and gave their reasons too. Why is this digressing from the main topic. To each his own right.

Ashwini said...

Hmm..I think the show should be more of fun than sympathy show as we have already so many serials to do that job:).
As far as I think Surya needs a good director. he is a showman but someone needs to bring that out of him..

KSOS said...

hawkeye,

Surya is "fake" to the core when he tries to show some personality off-screen.

The operative word in my sentence above is "when".

It is obvious that he is trying to be a "listener" when he is least bit interested in some guy talking about his hardships. And that is why this "fakeness". This doesn't mean he is always fake. There are rare shows (eg. with Gopinath in some Pongal show year/2 years back) where Surya was just casual. He was not interesting, but at least he was his self. That is way better than faking sympathy/empathy.

I am a ComplexNumber said...

Why do people talk about Surya's private life. I don't understand.

How can we talk about someone's intent as though we can be a remote-psychiatrist.

I can judge his acting. I can see that he is NOT a natural but a method actor who struggles really hard.

It is like someone can be a natural in Math/Physics/problem solving, others struggle to get there.

I don't think the second category should be derided. Yes, their primary passion might lie elsewhere, hence it is good to prod the person to help get back to their passion. But that is there to it.

Surya seems to be genuine. He is just not a fit for such a show. He seems to believe in "Good boy" image himself. that is his choice.

Anonymous said...

Surya tries too hard to make the show humorous, personable, light-hearted and fails miserably. This show requires a host much older than him. Regis Philbin was great. Bachchan is a close equivalent. Possibly Kamal would have been a good choice. Someone with flair and that cool reserve. Surya looks like a clown and his over-enthusiasm when a contestant gets a 2nd grade level answer right is nauseating. He's obviously uncomfortable in a public setting. Someone aptly pointed out that Surya shines when he underplays. He should just shut up and not try too hard.

Anonymous said...

Hawkeye: I think things have reached to a point that whatever you write (even when) in a lighthearted well meaning way will definitely result in a controversial post with the comment section filling up with politics of every kind totally unrelated the original post of course!!

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The Raj said...

"I actually dont think Karthi is annoying at all. Siruthai was nonsense but it still seemed one-off. He does run risk of being stereo-typed. But I have to say I havent seen a actor with so much screen presence after Rajinikanth"

He doesnt have any star-like likeable attributes onscreen and plays extensions of the same character in every film. In addition he looks uglier(compared to his brother, with his kONa vaai one-sided smile) and lacks the sophistication required to play certain roles. Surya had some of these problems too and he got a makeover from Bala/Manirathnam in the early 2000s. Karthi needs a Manirathnam or atleast a Gautam Menon to undergo a makeover of his on-screen persona

"I have at least 2 friends in the film industry (one appeared in GVM's movie along with Surya). According to them, Surya is a head weight guy and not like how he portrays himself in interviews. They never said this to me to put him down or anything. Just casual talks between friends.

"

anony, I have heard something similar too about Surya. But then a large part of the audience who watch this TV show do not know that, and hence this might not contribute to them thiking that Surya as an achor is a contrived act

"Surya welcomes a guest,
Surya : Vanga sir Vanga Appa solirkaru kandipa sapptu ponomnu

Guest : Unga appa illada, enga appavum sonnaru sapptu dhan varnomnu.....

"

Sathya Ram, thanks for the laugh, good one

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InWantOfBeingMe said...

Following up on these comments, I observe that Surya has improved manifold in his more recent episodes. He is more spontaneous, is engaging the contestant, and sheds a tear in that occasional moment, which does come across as heartfelt, and with Vijay TV capitalising on it, definitely works well for the audience.